Condom/No Condom

[zoobernut]

I can't even keep it up with a condom on...

That is very sad for you.

[Kuya]

Wow i actually didn't know this, talk about smashing common held beliefs:

Withdrawal method: Not an oxymoron? - Broadsheet - Salon.com

Or do we? In a commentary forthcoming in the June issue of Contraception (PDF), public health experts make the and-donkeys-fly suggestion -- based on existing research showing it works better than you might think -- that "the withdrawal method" should not necessarily be dismissed as an oxymoron. Here's your did-you-know of the day: Based on typical-use failure rates, withdrawal is only slightly less effective than the condom at preventing pregnancy.

Of course, withdrawal does not protect against sexually transmitted infections (though the researchers urge further research there), so -- if for that reason alone -- sex educators have been reluctant to wave its flag as a contraceptive. "Reliance on withdrawal alone is inappropriate for certain high-risk populations," acknowledges the report. However: "It is unfortunate that some couples do not realize they are substantially reducing their risk of pregnancy when using withdrawal, as these misperceptions may cause unnecessary levels of anxiety. More speculatively, if more people realized that correct and consistent use of withdrawal substantially reduced the risk of pregnancy, they might use it more effectively."

And withdrawal is far more effective at preventing pregnancy than use of no method at all." (The study addresses withdrawal both alone and used in just-in-case conjunction with other methods.)

What's the message here for sex educators? "Acknowledging the importance of withdrawal is crucial ... for counseling women and men about pregnancy prevention and choice of contraceptive method," the study says. "Practitioners should recognize that some of their patients may be relying on this method even if they do not report it. Although withdrawal may not be as effective as some contraceptive methods, it is substantially more effective than nothing. It is also convenient, requires no prior planning and there is no cost involved. Consistent dual use of withdrawal in conjunction with hormonal, barrier or other methods could constitute an effective contraceptive strategy.

[Dimmauk]

I can't even keep it up with a condom on...

Dude, get bigger condoms or Viagra. That sounds like you might have a medical problem. Are you overweight?

[Cyn]

Wow i actually didn't know this, talk about smashing common held beliefs:

Withdrawal method: Not an oxymoron? - Broadsheet - Salon.com

Not trying to be rude, but this is something that most straight guys will discover on their own over time. Amusing to see that people spend lots of money to figure things like this out.

[Kuya]

If you've paid attention, you'd notice that anytime someone mentions pulling out here, it becomes wave after wave of "you idiot". In fact, i'm wondering if i've partaken in it.

[Sunrider]

It was previously dismissed as an oxymoron concerning that portion of the population that pre-cums prior to actual ejaculation, meaning that it's likely that even withdrawl will not prevent the insertion of semen.

It's still kind of obvious that it's better than just leaving it in there, seeing as the little bit of pre-cum likely has less odds of resulting in pregnancy than full-on ejaculation.

And there are some of us that don't pre-cum, making it yet more viable.

[Cyn]

Probably. And I have noticed it, but a lot of times it's just one idiot that says it and all the sheeple have to chime in after that. There are people who have tried to contradict it even in this thread (Tyche comes to my mind, and I think I did as well) but you no how the interwebz are.

[Kuya]

Of course the real novelty comes from the study's finding that it is only slightly less effective than a condom.

[dejet]

Of course the real novelty comes from the study's finding that it is only slightly less effective than a condom.

Slightly less is what though? >.> 1% less? 10% less? whats the magic number?

[Cyn]

It's still kind of obvious that it's better than just leaving it in there, seeing as the little bit of pre-cum likely has less odds of resulting in pregnancy than full-on ejaculation.

Exponentially less. In fact, pre ejaculate is purely seminal fluid, the only way that it could contain sperm is if it picks up a few strays from a previous ejaculation on the way out. And since taking a piss will wash them out, not to mention they die over time anyways, it's not super likely. And if it does, it's a very very small amount.

[Kuya]

Slightly less is what though? >.> 1% less? 10% less? whats the magic number?

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If the male partner withdraws before ejaculation every time a couple has vaginal intercourse, about 4% of couples will become pregnant over the course of a year [2]. However, more realistic estimates of typical use indicate that about 18% of couples will become pregnant in a year using withdrawal [3]. These rates are only slightly less effective than male condoms, which have perfect- and typical-use failure rates of 2% and 17%1, respectively [3].

From the pdf in the link.