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**TaruMortis** · 2009-07-23 13:14

Originally Posted by Seraph

I think the most I have ever taken to a Temenos (not counting Ultima) was 12. There are some T2 Temenos where 6 generally doesn't quite cut it for a guaranteed win, and I absolutely hate having to redo zones. 18 is just insane overkill though. Take out 6 mages and have them just do NW for coins or something.

In cases like that we usually send about 3 or 4 to NW. Like I said we do split runs, this was just one of those times where lots and lots of people were late and our limbus leader dislikes having to re-do jobs.. silly, but, heh. Ultima is finished, time to get double head again

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**Seedz** · 2009-07-23 14:21

I went to solo the turtle in VoS again to get a Forager's augmented (fail #1, as the one with +5 acc was made in sky and I didn't know). I've soloed this turtle twice on PLD/NIN with zero trouble, and today I went /DNC and it popped with en-paralyze. Problem is, the proc was fucking insane:

Spoiler: show

Ended up losing my Forager's, and almost made it to Mordion Gaol when the GM told me "Well, you got lucky twice and unlucky once, that's still 66% lucky, not bad

". Thank god I held back.

**TaruMortis** · 2009-07-23 14:27

Wow.. wish my paralyze was that potent

**Deimos** · 2009-07-23 14:30

Originally Posted by Seedz

I went to solo the turtle in VoS again to get a Forager's augmented (fail #1, as the one with +5 acc was made in sky and I didn't know). I've soloed this turtle twice on PLD/NIN with zero trouble, and today I went /DNC and it popped with en-paralyze. Problem is, the proc was fucking insane:

Between the ridiculous En-paralyze and the fact that it can also pop with strong En-curse and En-petrify, I think most people have decided that fighting that NM without a WHM present is too risky, unless you're doing it in a way where it has absolutely no chance to ever hit you.

**Thorny** · 2009-07-23 14:49

Originally Posted by Seraph

I think the most I have ever taken to a Temenos (not counting Ultima) was 12. There are some T2 Temenos where 6 generally doesn't quite cut it for a guaranteed win, and I absolutely hate having to redo zones. 18 is just insane overkill though. Take out 6 mages and have them just do NW for coins or something.

4 is fine for 100% win in any T2 temenos, as is 2 for NW to win without any luck.. 12 for t2 temenos and 6 for NW is still terribly gimp =/

**Seraph** · 2009-07-23 17:10

Originally Posted by Thorny

4 is fine for 100% win in any T2 temenos, as is 2 for NW to win without any luck.. 12 for t2 temenos and 6 for NW is still terribly gimp =/

You just beating the zones for the chips, and not coin farming at the same time? I've come way too close to timeout trying Beastmen Kings T2 with only 6, assuming you clear all the normal mobs too.

Also, a heal spammy Carby can make the other one annoying. Having only 4 seems a little risky in the event of a bad two hour?

Edit: How do you kill the T2 Dragon with only 4 people without it getting spammy and annoying? We usually CSS it with 6-8 people (before killing the eye) there to make sure it dies before the CS wears. All the other mobs are not really challenging.

**Darlantan** · 2009-07-23 21:45

It indeed pertained to this thread because of:

1- Taking 18 people (or more than ~6, for that matter).
2- People weakened due to mages pulling hate just in time for Carby 2hr.
3- Mortis randoming very low, and for the exact amount of coins that low random got him (maybe that's win?).
4- Mortis thinking he'll ever kill me again.

Glad you found the biggest of all of them, Thorny!

**Ratatapa** · 2009-07-23 22:28

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/852...0723232428.png

**Snprphnx** · 2009-07-24 00:30

Originally Posted by Ratatapa

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/852...0723232428.png

that was the story of my shell last summer. 6 pops, 10 heads

**Thorny** · 2009-07-24 00:35

Originally Posted by Seraph

You just beating the zones for the chips, and not coin farming at the same time? I've come way too close to timeout trying Beastmen Kings T2 with only 6, assuming you clear all the normal mobs too.

Also, a heal spammy Carby can make the other one annoying. Having only 4 seems a little risky in the event of a bad two hour?

Edit: How do you kill the T2 Dragon with only 4 people without it getting spammy and annoying? We usually CSS it with 6-8 people (before killing the eye) there to make sure it dies before the CS wears. All the other mobs are not really challenging.

You really don't need CSS, just pull it to the bottom of the ramp so aoes don't hit mages. Having DD that aren't taru is a plus! We still kill everything in all the centrals, nothing wrong with 4-5 as long as they pay attention and have good gear.. then again, my entire limbus group is 8 people I know are good so I can trust them on splits like that.

**Massimo** · 2009-07-24 00:38

Originally Posted by Seraph

You just beating the zones for the chips, and not coin farming at the same time? I've come way too close to timeout trying Beastmen Kings T2 with only 6, assuming you clear all the normal mobs too.

We just did this today with 6, had 25 mins left. I don't see why 4 would be a problem.

Originally Posted by Seraph

Also, a heal spammy Carby can make the other one annoying. Having only 4 seems a little risky in the event of a bad two hour?

As long as you carby pull (or sleep ele's I guess, but meh) and keep the mages at the top of the ramp, you should have a good amount of time left with 4 good players here.

Originally Posted by Seraph

Edit: How do you kill the T2 Dragon with only 4 people without it getting spammy and annoying? We usually CSS it with 6-8 people (before killing the eye) there to make sure it dies before the CS wears. All the other mobs are not really challenging.

Do you place your mages at the top of the ramp on this one? Being able to avoid the AoE's really help. And it won't spam a lot with 2~3 DDs. Never used CSS here, as it's always been a breeze.

Edit: Mehyouthorny.

**Seraph** · 2009-07-24 09:33

Yeah, we always use the ramps. We can't always Carby pull depending on who shows, but it is used when we can.

When we go, usually the members are split into 2-3 groups depending on attendance, so no group is really optimal, but all will definitely function. We have regulars, but some people show up on odd days, or not all the time. Surprisingly, even though many of us have been doing Limbus weekly for years, some people still really don't know the tricks, or 'secrets' and are often more or less on auto pilot. That might be part of the reason we go kinda slow sometimes. We also have members come and go, so the newer guys will often slow things down a little if they don't really know whats going on and we have to explain it on the fly.

Also, it also probably doesn't help on the runs I usually lead I'm half asleep too. ._.

**Darlantan** · 2009-07-27 17:48

Back on topic:

I join a pick-up group (1st) for nyzul, as I could use some Goli Legs for my BLM idle set.

Of course, most members are terribly gimp (2nd), the two Sams in the same shell were full-timing Sea Gorgets and some other incredible pieces, but I was hoping to see that from a pick-up group, anyway.

Surprisingly enough, we get to Faffy, and the SCH goes crazy on me because I have hate on the dragon instead of letting the THF hold hate so TH works (3rd). Dying to breath (4th) made it so much hilarious.

Spoiler: show

**Aksannyi** · 2009-07-27 17:50

Wow. Just ... wow.

**Karbuncle** · 2009-07-27 17:55

Originally Posted by Darlantan

Back on topic:

I join a pick-up group (1st) for nyzul, as I could use some Goli Legs for my BLM idle set.

Of course, most members are terribly gimp (2nd), the two Sams in the same shell were full-timing Sea Gorgets and some other incredible pieces, but I was hoping to see that from a pick-up group, anyway.

Surprisingly enough, we get to Faffy, and the SCH goes crazy on me because I have hate on the dragon instead of letting the THF hold hate so TH works (3rd). Dying to breath (4th) made it so much hilarious.

Spoiler: show

I wish this was on Asura so i could laugh at them until they blisted me

**Tricen** · 2009-07-27 18:01

Originally Posted by Darlantan

Back on topic:

I join a pick-up group (1st) for nyzul, as I could use some Goli Legs for my BLM idle set.

Of course, most members are terribly gimp (2nd), the two Sams in the same shell were full-timing Sea Gorgets and some other incredible pieces, but I was hoping to see that from a pick-up group, anyway.

Surprisingly enough, we get to Faffy, and the SCH goes crazy on me because I have hate on the dragon instead of letting the THF hold hate so TH works (3rd). Dying to breath (4th) made it so much hilarious.

Spoiler: show

FUCK me I'm on his server

**Karbuncle** · 2009-07-27 18:06

Originally Posted by Tricen

FUCK me I'm on his server

SEND THEM TELLS UNTIL THEY BLIST YOU!! MAKE THEM FEEL STUPID.

We might be able to get a Conversation out of it!

**Despain** · 2009-07-27 18:07

HOLY LORD!

To be expected from pick up groups though -.-; although fucking Nyzul refuses to put out for us :/

Pandemonium is riddled with idiots as of late for some strange reason.

**Drex** · 2009-07-27 18:14

Originally Posted by Mezmerize

Every server is riddled with idiots as of forever for some strange reason.

it's the internet

but pandy has more than its share of atrocious ones. Reminds me of someone telling us to take off our swift belts at a swift belt run to increase drop rate.

**BadKarma** · 2009-07-27 19:51

Fail: Anyone who has please dont check me IN THEIR FUCKING BAZAAR COMMENT

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