Uh Oh We're in Trouble? First H1N1 Cytokine Storm/Other Problems

[Kuya]

And ugly dick.

[Senoska]

Rather than type up some long post discribing the history of this type of shit, I'll just post these videos and you can edgumacate yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br80HSGGPek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W57pnVhEhjU

[Shiroikage]

We should listen to this guy. He's even more ugly than Seno.

[Senoska]

Personal attacks.

Just because i can.

[Shiroikage]

If it makes you feel any better, Seno, I've got a bit of a background in virology and immunology and this doesn't worry me in the slightest.

You can keep trolling yourself if you want to, though.

[Kuya]

Na bro, his background in Japanese makes him more convincing.

[Rhinox]

Prepubescent anatomy as well.

[Teffy]

are you really trying to use an example from fucking 1918? Why not just go back to the black death to show us how badly a disease can spread. Time for the church to start persecuting jews and foreigners.

[Rhinox]

lol well played

[Shiroikage]

If anybody wants, I'll buy a whiteboard, shave some patches into my beard, put my hair into a ponytail, and make some videos.

[thestalkmore]

Someone (I can't, on my laptop) needs to photoshop the elphaba pic with a hypodermic needle for Senoska.

[Tristam]

thunderf00t is great and all (actually being serious), but you're putting up a strawman, noone is saying we shouldn't be prepared for pandemics, the truth is we are getting prepared as we speak. Like I said, GSK is making the vaccine and it only falls on the US to buy it (which we likely will).

What else can people do? Close schools? Stop traveling? Will it matter? We don't know, and neither does the dude in the video. Like I said, people are studying the heck outta this disease and I posted, for you, a summary of what is known about the genetics and manifestation of the current pandemic.

The bottom line is that we've seen many pandemics besides the 1918 spanish flu, the comparison there isn't any good as things like, oh let's say, WWI, weren't keeping young men with few cross-reactive antibodies to older strains of flu together in crowded military hospitals. Invoking millions and millions of deaths and extrapolating infection rates to the entire population of the world is just not in line with what is known about the virus given what we now know about the infection and mortality rates of the current virus. thunderf00t is one of the good guys, but I don't think his extrapolations are helping here. You could make the same argument for literally every new strain of flu that pops up about preparedness and health, but suggesting the entire population could become infected when we don't even know the generational time? Sorry, but the skeptic in me says "let's wait until we see some evidence".

edit: I mean seriously, we've got scientists going to foreign countries investigating respiratory problems and testing for H1N1 etc. This is going to be the best studied flu ever. What the fuck else can we do?

[Bagel]

If anybody wants, I'll buy a whiteboard, shave some patches into my beard, put my hair into a ponytail, and make some videos.

Really need the accent. Makes you sound smrt

[Shiroikage]

Really need the accent. Makes you sound smrt

I can't pull off the accent. Guess it's a no-go.

[Vajra]

Japan reports domestic swine flu case

Since this flu is now establishing itself in Japan, you can expect the WHO to raise the pandemic threat level to lv. 6 sometime this week. It may not be a huge threat just yet, but they have to raise the lv. to 6 as a measure of protocol anyways (based on domestic cases outside of North America).

[Absolutely Virtue]

Do you know how many people have died in car wrecks since this thing started? How about the number of people killed by handguns? You're literally surrounded by the most dangerous shit imaginable, and you're choosing to get worried over the possibility that this /might/ mutate into something that you /might/ catch that /might/ make you really sick and /might/ make you die?

[Senoska]

You're acting like I'm in a bunker hunkered down over this shit. The point I'm making is this is not just 'media hype' like people were agreeing to on the first page. This has the ability to be a very real problem. Car crashes and what not would not even be relevant in the face of a pandemic. Watch the videos I posted.

[Seraph]

You're acting like I'm in a bunker hunkered down over this shit. The point I'm making is this is not just 'media hype' like people were agreeing to on the first page. This has the ability to be a very real problem. Car crashes and what not would not even be relevant in the face of a pandemic. Watch the videos I posted.

Explain to me why this is really any more dangerous than typical flu strains? There has been absolutely _NO_ evidence to the contrary. Any disease has the potential to become a problem, this is not special at all. Standard Avian Flu had far greater potential to be the destroyer of worlds.



Common Cold 2009: Shut Down Everything!

[Senoska]

Watch the videos. I'm not typing you a transcript of what was said. There is obvious reason to be concerned over this. It's not the common cold.

[Seraph]

Watch the videos. I'm not typing you a transcript of what was said. There is obvious reason to be concerned over this. It's not the common cold.

Besides lacking large amounts of vaccine for the usual people at risk, I have yet to see or hear of anything more dangerous about H1N1 than typical seasonal flu.

The media hyped it up, realized there really wasn't anything terrible going on, and let off. Because it had a really easy to remember and scary name (Swine Flu,I would like you to meet Mad Cow Disease) people freaked out about it, and even started killing pigs. How absurd, considering the first victim of this was statistically most likely a human suffering from a version of Avain flu, and standard strain of swine flu at the same time.

Unless there is some new radical mutation, which is not any more likely than with normal flu, I don't see what the danger is. Heaven forbid humanity have some natural pathogen immunity. This isn't the same strains of flu in the past that killed millions of people, so stop pretending it is.