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  1. #1321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Slower kills and more damage taken is generally the sign of a good group who knows how to Suck Less™
    I think he's on to something.

  2. #1322
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Farming SSR or Ramparts is fine with no support, but I'd love to see BR or AR boss done with 7-8 and no BRD.
    Seriously ? .. we do BR 1F rampart (50%) (please don't tell me you need a buffer to pop this one because a rdm+thf setup can kill mad bomber) pop 4F rampart (50%) and kill the boss with mnk,sam,thf,rdm,whm.

    As for arrapago, seriously ? Why wouldn't you be able to kill the boss w/o a brd. A boss kill with a brd and 2 mnk is 7-8 min and w/o it's around 12-13 minutes.

  3. #1323
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    jesus christ this level of stupidity should be a bannable offense

    like I'm starting to get offended

  4. #1324
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    I don't understand the boss times some people(Pchan) are claiming;
    My group is WAR SAM DRG THF COR BRD RDM WHM (usually), and we manage non-SSR bosses in about 10-12 minutes. I don't see how "Two MNK, no brd, final destination." is doing shit in same ammount of time as we are. Also note that my DD aren't gimp.

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    is someone exaggerating on the internet again?

  5. #1325
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkSammich View Post
    I don't understand the boss times some people(Pchan) are claiming;
    My group is WAR SAM DRG THF COR BRD RDM WHM (usually), and we manage non-SSR bosses in about 10-12 minutes. I don't see how "Two MNK, no brd, final destination." is doing shit in same ammount of time as we are. Also note that my DD aren't gimp.

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    is someone exaggerating on the internet again?
    Don't take anything he says seriously. I'd like to say he's a masterful troll, but he really is just that stupid.

  6. #1326
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    apparently a great troll is just a stupid person in disguise
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    nope

  7. #1327
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    What is this...I don't even....

    NO BARDS
    RDM ONLY
    BHAFLAU REMNANTS

    Seriously, I brag about doing Ramparts without Bards too.

    If only you were trolling.

  8. #1328
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkSammich View Post
    I don't understand the boss times some people(Pchan) are claiming;
    My group is WAR SAM DRG THF COR BRD RDM WHM (usually), and we manage non-SSR bosses in about 10-12 minutes. I don't see how "Two MNK, no brd, final destination." is doing shit in same ammount of time as we are. Also note that my DD aren't gimp.

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    is someone exaggerating on the internet again?
    Seriously how is it possible to be that slow with BRD and COR ? Here is what we do on ZR boss for instance :

    Without brd, 2 mnks. 12'30
    http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z.../BR-nobard.jpg

    With brd, mnk and sam.7'30
    http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...ann/BR-brd.jpg

  9. #1329
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    Least you give out facts. Your buddy, Pchan, is an idiot.

  10. #1330
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    Guilt by association, dude. I'll run a parse later to see our exact times to be sure.

  11. #1331
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    Pchan is just... what I don't even... how can someone be so. I quit.

  12. #1332
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badkarma View Post
    This person right here folks, is the paramount of the "good gear, retarded player" mantra.
    I prefer "All the gear, no idea". It rhymes.

    Edit: Not to say I agree with anything of anyone or have any input! Just thought I'd fix the phrase :3

    Edit 2: Wait, pchan is claiming you can do X boss in a certain time, everyone else is calling him a troll. mdkuser posts a parse proving pchan correct, and people still disagree? Am confused.

  13. #1333
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    I prefer "All the gear, no idea". It rhymes.
    Only if you are from Boston and/or are bad at pronunciation?


    edit 2: Wait, pchan is claiming you can do X boss in a certain time, everyone else is calling him a troll. mdkuser posts a parse proving pchan correct, and people still disagree? Am confused.
    Pchan is a troll for entirely different reasons. 99% of the time he is flat out wrong and he makes the most idiotic claims
    I however agree with him on said chariot fight times for an experienced group with solid DD.

  14. #1334
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    Pchan is an idiot, not for suggesting you can kill salvage bosses in 7:30mins (relatively easy for most experienced groups with the exception of LAC) but for even alluding to the fact you would bring whm rdm over brd rdm or do salvage without a brd in the first place (when you have 4+ people).

  15. #1335
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    meh, i hate using the term idiot, he's just unwilling to admit that others do it a different way and it works.

    Personally We've been doing 3 sams about the last week or so. 3 waying light on every mob is extremely funny. (for some reason it is to me)

    3 sams, whm, brd, cor, thf

    our main mnk finally got aces and was pestering to come sam so we tried it and ya....may not bring a mnk ever again <_<

    though I do miss penance on bosses.

  16. #1336
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limlight View Post
    meh, i hate using the term idiot, he's just unwilling to admit that others do it a different way and it works.
    No, he is usually just wrong and failing to accept or understand this every time makes him an idiot.

  17. #1337
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    Pchan is right, you can do anything in this game without a bard.

    However, and as that parse above says, why the fuck would you want too?

    How about you take a brd and spend more time farming ramparts and less time fighting bosses.

    Salvage decision process:

    Do you have a bard? Yes -> Do Salvage, No -> Find a bard.
    Did you find a bard? Yes -> Do Salvage, No -> Level bard.
    Did you level bard? Yes -> Do Salvage , No -> TP in str rings.

  18. #1338
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limlight View Post
    meh, i hate using the term idiot, he's just unwilling to admit that others do it a different way and it works.

    Personally We've been doing 3 sams about the last week or so. 3 waying light on every mob is extremely funny. (for some reason it is to me)

    3 sams, whm, brd, cor, thf

    our main mnk finally got aces and was pestering to come sam so we tried it and ya....may not bring a mnk ever again <_<

    though I do miss penance on bosses.
    pro sams use ace's helm in salvage yeah.

  19. #1339
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    pro sams use ace's helm in salvage yeah.
    I get it, turban > ace's because you're all about maximizing efficiency in Salvage. Oh wait, you DON'T EVEN BRING A BRD.

  20. #1340
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    Dude, pchan, I did not give you permission to use Suck Less™, it is mine from years ago. Please cease and desist.


    Breathing, I mean, I can't provide proof that I originated Suck Less™, though I did.

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