Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn

[kareface]

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objects!

Nice. That's a classy response. However I'm going to have to dork it up with my reply. It wouldn't actually classify as 2 things because, as I posted eariler:

“Primates” are collectively defined as any gill-less, organic RNA/DNA protein-based, metabolic, metazoic, nucleic, diploid, bilaterally-symmetrical, endothermic, digestive, tryploblast, opisthokont, deuterostome coelemate with a spinal chord and 12 cranial nerves connecting to a limbic system in an enlarged cerebrial cortex with a reduced olfactory region inside a jawed-skull with specialized teeth including canines and premolars, forward-oriented fully-enclosed optical orbits, and a single temporal fenestra, -attached to a vertebrate hind-leg dominant tetrapoidal skeleton with a sacral pelvis, clavical, and wrist & ankle bones; and having lungs, tear ducts, body-wide hair follicles, lactal mammaries, opposable thumbs, and keratinized dermis with chitinous nails on all five digits on all four extremities, in addition to an embryonic development in amniotic fluid, leading to a placental birth and highly social lifestyle.

So by definition he wouldn't be a Primate, or Homo-sapien-sapien (I.E. man). So he wouldn't actually be man and not man, he would just be not man.

[Plow]

I see your "not a man"


And raise you


Old Spice is a deodorant AND and antiperspirant.



And that body wash is like soap and moisturizer or some shit isn't it?

[kareface]

Yes, but it isn't "this or that", it's "this or not this". So it's deodorant or not deodorant. While it can also be antiperspirant or not antiperspirant. Oh hell, why am I replying to this.... lol

[Plow]

I dunno either lol, it was supposed to be a joke.

But I think the point demo was making was that it can be more than one thing, not that it can both be and not be.


And/or that some interpretations or incarnations could be while others could not be, or that it could be sometimes and not be other times.

[Faris]

Champion! Champion! Champion!

did you cum, baby?

[kareface]

did you cum, baby?

Firas, time to do some homework:
http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/75180...ml#post2800238

[Faris]

Firas, time to do some homework:
http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/75180...ml#post2800238

time to stop wasting my time (and your time)

[Neosutra]

So did Firas concede his religious text wasn't perfect?

[Max™]

lol, you're just trying too hard now. your reply makes no sense about the watch in the desert, sorry.

listen kareface; if you're argument was a very valid argument and science has 100% proven that there is no God, and that everything was just a big fucking mistake then; then somebody would get up on stage and declare it on TV on newspapers... they declare that there.is.no.GOD.
they'd enlighten 95% of the world; but they wouldnt do that because they cannot make it as a fact..creationism makes more sense, bro sorry.

You clearly don't know how science works, even though it's been explained time and time again.

It isn't science vs god. Science just holds higher standards for proof than Religion does.

Any shmuck can say "PRAISE HIM!"
They can't say "LOOK THERE, IT'S GOD!"
There is no disproof of god because it is a poorly formed conjecture, if you are asking a stupid question, and you get a ridiculous answer, who's fault is that?

Q: How many cats does it take to make a banana?
A: Maple Syrup

but they're not doing that; they are just giving us theoriessss, and maybe's


science is not 100% accurate.

/sigh

Theories are not just guesses, again, but I digress there since you don't want to listen to that.

As for accuracy, obviously science is not 100% accurate yet, but let's check out the track record for religions accuracy, shall we?

What's that? 0%?
No provable statements whatsoever?
Golly, that's a devastating argument you made there.

Kareface, you're very skilled in the art of quoting and arguing, i give you that.
and very stubborn (but arent we all)

can you please explain to me djinns/spirits.

and explain to me the soul.

Djinn's/Ghosts/Spirits/UFO's/Bigfoot/etc are all due to human observational errors, nothing more. Can you please explain to me why, if these things are real, there has never been a single piece of documented evidence showing this? Ever, in the history of human experience.

No one has ever been able to show conclusive proof of this shit, which leads me to think, hey, maybe it's just bullshit huh.

There is no soul, it is not necessary to explain anything, it is unhelpful.

[Max™]

Stupid question: WHO made the Universe?
Less Stupid Question: How could someone make a Universe?
Smart Question: What can I determine logically about the origin of the Universe by studying it?


Conservation of matter/energy/momentum ONLY apply within the Universe.

You can not use that as an argument for or against God if you have any idea what you're talking about.

The Universe is a closed system according to all observations, those conservation laws are exactly what you would expect in that situation, they can be considered evidence of a finite Universe to an educated mind.

I could go into great detail about inflationary cosmologies, entropic states, conservation of order vs the increase of entropy, observationally relative descriptions of existence.

I could explain how Leibniz's concept of monads should explain why you do not need belief to state something exists, because you can not disprove your own existence (thank you Descartes), and you are there to state something exists. So in relation to you, it can only be logically determined that it exists in some fashion.

Existing as a concept is more of a pure mathematical type of existence than existence as a physical object.

You can prove a mathematical concept in ways you can not prove physical objects, and you can prove physical objects in ways you can not prove mathematical concepts.

God is a concept, not an object.

[Rhinox]

This thread needs to be taken out of it misery.

[Melios]

But then where did god come from?

The mind

[Mizango]

Holy sweet Jesús.

[wop]

Sorta related but in the reverse direction.

Beelzebub is a benefit cheat | The Sun |News

AN oddball who swindled £3,500 in benefits to make himself look like the Devil was yesterday banned from prowling the streets at night.
Dad-of-two Gavin Paslow was slapped with the curfew when he appeared before magistrates under his new name Diablo Delenfer.

Afterwards he told how he had spent the cash on surgery giving him fangs, a forked tongue and even horns.

He wears green reptilian contact lenses and usually has a pointed beard. But he said: "I shaved that off before the case to look respectable."

Diablo now hopes to complete his transformation into Beelzebub by having boney spinal implants from his head to his back - and dreams of one day having a real tail.

The 39-year-old heavy metal fan insisted: "There's nothing wrong with me, people have no need to be scared. I'm almost a normal human."

He changed his name by deed poll at Halloween, and says the moniker means "devil from the inferno".

Diablo, separated from his wife, told The Sun: "I'm not just into being a devil. I enjoy other activities such as mediaeval archery.

"I also like motorcycling, but I've had to have grooves cut into my crash helmet to fit over my horns."

Speaking at his purple, red and black house in sleepy Seasalter, Kent, Diablo catalogued his "body modifications" - but denied having them to counter a mid-life crisis.

His horns were created in July 2007 with Teflon domes inserted under his skin. The following January he had his canine teeth filed down and topped with ceramic fangs.

That April the tip of his tongue was split with a scalpel. And in August he had his ears pointed - but says he will need another op because they are becoming rounded again.

Most of his upper body is covered with 29 demon-themed tattoos and he has 11 piercings. Diablo said: "I always wanted to be a little devil and decided to do this after finding out about it on the internet.

"I see my body as a work in progress. I'm considering implants to give a raised vertebrae effect on the top of my head and on my back.

"But what I really want is a tail - a proper, organic tail. At the moment they say it's not possible, but surgery is advancing so quickly that it might be a different story in a few years."

He has daughters aged three and 15 and admits the elder girl thinks he is an "embarrassment". He added: "Her friends say I look cool but she won't let me come to parents evening."

He was convicted in April of council tax and housing benefit fraud and of failing to report income support overpayments - while working variously for a security company, two recruitment firms and as a self-employed guard.

He said he was repaying the cash, but returned to JPs to complain a bad back meant he could not complete 200 hours of community service they gave him. Instead he was tagged and banned from going out between 5pm and 5am.

Diablo, currently single, said: "Some women like the way I look but I'm sure there are many who don't.

"My parents are fine with it. I'm still their son. But Mum still calls me Gavin."

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