Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn

[Zilong]

God exists in the 4th dimension currently locked away within the Zohar.

This is the correct answer.

Humanity as it existed had never evolved, as it's a race created as an eventual part for the body of the false god.

[quannum]

So you admit that your posts are nonsense. Should've just said that in the first place bro.

[kareface]

The correct response is "You are not making any fucking sense." What is wrong with you? All that "rational" thinking and you can't answer a question a kindergartner could.

This is critical: You can't answer questions that don't make sense. Neither answer is correct because the question "Does God exist?" doesn't make any fucking sense. One isn't truer than the other, they are equally stupid and wrong.

It can't be made any more clear: Science is a reflection of our known reality(which is why it is a "hopeless" as a troll would say, the entire world can't be explained because explanations exist in it). Considering that God exists outside our world then science can never even attempt to reflect God. Yes, it all comes down to the "you can't prove it" and "you can't unprove it" bullshit. Too bad so few people really bother to understand why.

Jesus, you are so full of yourself it's hard to fathom. How would that be any different then questioning if probability waves existed? Just because it doesn't make sense to us now doesn't mean the answer is unknowable. The question "Does god exist?" is perfectly reasonable, it's just the answer that is unknown to us for now and unreasonable to assume.

[BRP]

I am waiting for those examples of Gods that are not supernatural and therefor visible in science.

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How would that be any different then questioning if probability waves existed?

Because unlike God they are not otherworldly?

[Max™]

The question "Does God exist?" is philosophical, are you saying all philosophy is reasonable?

Ever met an Absolute Sophist?

[kareface]

I am waiting for those examples of Gods that are not supernatural and therefor visible in science.

Prayer, the creation of the universe, miracles, any real interaction he would have with our world can be tested at some point.

[kareface]

I am waiting for those examples of Gods that are not supernatural and therefor visible in science.

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Because unlike God they are not otherworldly?

They would be in the highest possible dimension, one could assume the same of god.

[BRP]

How amazing it is to be able to test these things without even being able to describe them. It would all be in one scientist's head and when he died the truth(EDIT: lol) about God would be lost until someone else got to be that intelligent.

Max was that directed at me? Most philosophy isn't reasonable, most of it should be ignored.

[Chen]

god existing isn't likely, but it is retarded to try convince people that he doesn't when you can't.

let people believe what they want, this only bugs people who can't handle other people thinking their wrong, get over yourselves and come back with proof and we'll all be happy

[kareface]

How amazing it is to be able to test these things without even being able to describe them. It would all be in one scientist's head and when he died the truth about God would be lost until someone else got to be that intelligent.

Max was that directed at me? Most philosophy isn't reasonable, most of it should be ignored.

People have tested the indescribable in the past. Gravity, germ theory, radioactive theory. Can you really not describe prayer? You act as if you know everything or that your position is unassailable.

[quannum]

I am waiting for those examples of Gods that are not supernatural and therefor visible in science.

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Because unlike God they are not otherworldly?

Mount Olympus is otherworldy? They couldn't be sensed.

sarcasm, btw.

[kareface]

god existing isn't likely, but it is retarded to try convince people that he doesn't when you can't.

let people believe what they want, this only bugs people who can't handle other people thinking their wrong, get over yourselves and come back with proof and we'll all be happy

You don't have to convince people that he doesn't, simply that belief that he does is unreasonable.

[BRP]

You act as if you know everything or that your position is unassailable.

It is the other way around, you just know very little and someone like yourself doesn't have a prayer. On the topic of prayers, any connection they have to God is a myth.

Mount Olympus is otherworldy? They couldn't be sensed.

Nope, Greek mythology are stories. They fit nicely into our world. Go and pick up a book!

[zoobernut]

It is the other way around, you just know very little and someone like yourself doesn't have a prayer. On the topic of prayers, any connection they have to God is a myth.



Nope, Greek mythology are stories. They fit nicely into our world. Go and pick up a book!

This is a major hangup for most people. It seems that there is this incapability of most people to separate religion from spirituality and the belief in god and the belief in the man made rituals surrounding the belief in god.

You can be spiritual and believe that there can be a god or is a god without buying into any organized religion.

[quannum]

Nope, Greek mythology are stories. They fit nicely into our world. Go and pick up a book!

ummmm, you were the one pretending all gods are supernatural, otherworldly, mystical bow-tie wearers. I just provided a counter-example, that, yes, they do fit nicely into our world ... that was my point.

[BRP]

Read zoober's post. That might clue you in.

I guess it really doesn't matter at this point I know you can't provide me a God within our world. Since I am tiring of chopping your legs off and feeding them to your mother, I will retire until you can actually say something critical.

EDIT: You've actually impressed me. You tricked me into think you knew more, but then you go and bring up Zeus lol. oh oh, because we are still talking about the abrahamic god right? Nope.

[quannum]

zoobernut's point is fine, but you are nonsensical claims which you cannot back up. If all you were doing is espousing some sorta agnostic-deist view, then you wouldn't have a problem. But you are saying it MUST be X, when you have no clue. I've already provided you with beings that meet the definition of god w/o being otherworldly. They don't meet your definition, but that's all it is .. your definition.

and now you are admitting defeat, by bravely running away.

nice edit there, ... oh no, we're talking about BRP's god now, the one who wears a bow-tie and like oceans made of ice-cream. What else does your non-existing god do? I mean, you know so much about him.

[Max™]

How amazing it is to be able to test these things without even being able to describe them. It would all be in one scientist's head and when he died the truth(EDIT: lol) about God would be lost until someone else got to be that intelligent.

Max was that directed at me? Most philosophy isn't reasonable, most of it should be ignored.

At Kare about his "Does God exist?" is a reasonable question comment.

Also: fuck that stupid higher dimension bullshit, 1+3 is the way to be.

[kareface]

It is the other way around, you just know very little and someone like yourself doesn't have a prayer. On the topic of prayers, any connection they have to God is a myth.

I'm open to the idea of not knowing. I've made mention that I can't know somethings. You on the other hand make claims that you can't prove, like:

On the topic of prayers, any connection they have to God is a myth

You are making claims about something that you can't know. You are so full of yourself.

[Eratosthenes]

All of you must accept the existence of Undefined Entity. I can't possibly tell you anything meaningful about Undefined Entity, because then it would not be Undefined Entity, but Undefined Entity must exist nonetheless.