Hey, Beckwin

[Kuya]

Who are you going to vote for on the next election, the really conservative party or the conservative party?

[Bebopaloo]

Dwight. D. Eisenhower.

[Conrad]

BUT OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST

[Beckwin]

idk, possibly a third party if they've got anyone good and depending on how Obama could potentially turn some of his disappointments around. I see the GOP as almost marginalized 4 years from now, so third party won't seem like quite the throwaway. Although, I do have hope for what a lame-duck Obama could unleash... I feel right now he's gravitating toward the center(-right) to score points at home to build a rock solid base of political capital rly.

[Kuya]

You have a really interesting way of rationalizing failure.

[Dimmauk]

You have a really interesting way of rationalizing failure.

Explain this failure.

Brand Dems socialists says RNC bloc
By JONATHAN MARTIN | 4/23/09 2:53 PM EDT Updated: 4/24/09 5:23 AM EDT

A conservative faction of the Republican National Committee is urging the GOP to take a harder line against both Democrats and wayward Republicans, drafting a resolution to rename the opposition the “Democrat Socialist Party” and moving to rebuke the three Republican senators who supported the stimulus package.

In an e-mail sent Wednesday to the 168 voting members of the committee, RNC member James Bopp, Jr. accused President Obama of wanting “to restructure American society along socialist ideals.”

“The proposed resolution acknowledges that and calls upon the Democrats to be truthful and honest with the American people by renaming themselves the Democrat Socialist Party,” wrote Bopp, the Republican committeeman from Indiana. “Just as President Reagan’s identification of the Soviet Union as the ‘evil empire’ galvanized opposition to communism, we hope that the accurate depiction of the Democrats as a Socialist Party will galvanize opposition to their march to socialism.”

The resolution, proposed by a committeeman from Washington state, was agreed upon by 16 RNC members from 16 different states and is part of a petition asking RNC Chairman Michael Steele to set a special committee meeting next month when the state chairs meet in Washington, D.C.

An RNC member said that Bopp, one of the most conservative and outspoken individuals on the committee, had pulled together a group of his fellow conservatives to agree to the resolution.

In an interview, Bopp said he thought Steele would set the special meeting.

“He has always told us that he was supportive of and agreed with the substance of these resolutions,” said Bopp, a lawyer known for his advocacy against campaign finance reform.

An RNC official said Steele would prefer to see the matter taken up at the committee’s regular summer meeting in July. This official declined to elaborate on where the chairman stands on the resolution.

But an April 8 memo from Steele to the RNC indicates that while he shares the view of the hard-liners that Obama is leading the country toward socialism, he’s not inclined to support making it party policy.

“The Democrats are indeed marching America toward European-style socialism, and I will continue to criticize their dangerous policies in that regard,” Steele wrote. “But I believe these proposed resolutions will accomplish little than to give the media and our opponents the opportunity to mischaracterize Republicans.”

The paper resolutions of a minority party have little consequence on actual elections or policies, but the push by Bopp is a reflection of the deep concern many grass-roots Republicans have for the policies of Obama and their unhappiness toward those GOP elected officials they see as capitulating to his agenda.

"There is nothing more important for our party than bringing the truth to bear on the Democrats' march to socialism,” said Jeff Kent, the Washington state committeeman who proposed the resolution. “Just like Ronald Reagan identifying the U.S.S.R. as the evil empire was the beginning of the end to Soviet domination, we believe the American people will reject socialism when they hear the truth about how the Democrats are bankrupting our country and destroying our freedom and liberties."

The “socialist” label was frequently thrown around during last year’s campaign, and its usage has become increasingly commonplace among GOP activists. Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.) even said recently that there were 17 socialists in Congress.


The GOP still has no message or real leaders. The speech Steele gave yesterday was empty and had nothing new at all. Just the same lame saber rattling.

[#686578]

The republicans are fucking retarded.

[Kuya]

Of course, how could i have been so wrong, the democrats aren't conservative but rather socialist because the really conservative party said so.

[Kuya]

Though it seems that you only need to love gays in amerca to be a liberal.

[Charismatic]

Though it seems that you only need to love gays in amerca to be a liberal.

To be fair... loving gays is pretty liberal anywhere.

[Kuya]

But i do sort of agree, clearly the conservative party is now actually socialist for voting for the stimulus bill... had they instead voted for the bailout bill like the really conservative party had, then they wouldn't be socialist. I mean really, what's more conservative than giving more money to rich people?

[Kuya]

To be fair... loving gays is pretty liberal anywhere.

fuck being fair

[Kuya]

To be fair... loving gays is pretty liberal anywhere.

No, but you're right, it makes sense really. All the democrats have to do is act like they sort of kind of maybe possibly next tuesday support gay marriage while getting in the way of national healthcare, demilitarization, upholding the rule of law by investigating torture, and support israel's right to defend itself against palestinian poverty. Wohoo liberalism!

[#686578]

Gay people are usually pretty fair. Are you saying you want to fuck gay people?

[Charismatic]

I'll fuck a gay woman.

[Kuya]

Fair at what?

[Kuya]

gay woman.

no such thing

[Charismatic]

May be a conflict of interest in her case...

[#686578]

Skinned, gay people love going to the spa

[Charismatic]

no such thing

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