Do Guantanamo prisoners have super powers?

[Kuya]

I didn't know that Americans housed maximum security prisons in their backyards.

[Kuya]

It explains the high incarceration rates though. But with that in mind, i don't know why an American would oppose imprisoning them in a prison in the US. If America is good at anything, it's imprisoning people.

[Ohemgee]

Arab's don't know how to break out of jail, they buy their way out

[Lee]

It's more of a fear of spreading their ideologies then a fear of an escape. Although, there has been past events which had Al Qaeda break out their members from prison from the outside via an attack.

[Mizango]

I didn't know that Americans housed maximum security prisons in their backyards.

You should come see Houston and check out the security patrolling the gorilla compound. It's sick.

[Elvis]

Elvis, make sure you send the military your address, so they can dump these guys in the closest super-max to your house, and then tell me it's not a security issue.

Reps balked because the people they represent don't want these jag-offs in their back yard, can't say I blame them. It's got nothing to do with conspiracies and whacked off theories about pictures they don't want us to see. Extremist muslims want to blow us up because we are not extremist muslims, 'what we've done to them' is just a red herring.

I'm not advocating that we set them free. And I'm not talking about conspiracy theories.

During Vietnam, 'the State' was trying to prosecute people for revealing it's crimes. See: The Pentagon Papers.

If you're implying that releasing a bunch of photographs of us torturing prisoners is worse than the act of us torturing prisoners - which is the logical comparison since you cannot have the former without the latter and obviously people know we're doing this stuff to 'them' - then you're clearly deluded.

They have plenty of reasons to hate us. Before the war, 500,000 Iraqi children died due to the sanctions. There's a whole litany of typical imperialist policies (crimes) that have torn the region apart.

However, it's very convenient to whitewash our own crimes and paint the enemy as a cartoon character.

Why does the Saudi Arabia State still exist such as it is? Ditto for Jordan/Egypt/etc.? Why did we support the Indonesian Occupation of East Timor? Why do we support the Occupation of Palestine? Why did we support the Afghans against Soviets?

The world isn't black and white. I have no doubt that Islamic fundamentalists are crazy and blah blah. However, their chief recruiting tool is the legitimate grievances of the civilian population. A civilian population that is most importantly - politically repressed and impoverished.

It's a funny notion that Radical Islam could ever take over the world and impose Global Sharia law and all that other fucking retarded David Horowitz/Daniel Pipes bullshit. The Arab world is dominated by puppet leadership. And poll after poll shows that Arabs feel as though the United States supports oppressive regimes in the region for it's own hegemonic goals.

[Drex]

If you're living with a maximum security prison in your backyard, I don't really think you're in a position to complain about dangerous people being in it

[Seraph]

I always wondered if escaped prisoners would actually linger immediately outside the prison.

[Correction]

I always wondered if escaped prisoners would actually linger immediately outside the prison.

Of course! The first thing they do is crawl right into your backyard and plant marijuana bushes. Then they get jobs at your local schools as teachers and teach kids that same-sex marriage is okay.

[zoobernut]

As George Carlin once said. (paraphrasing here) "I do not understand why people are so afraid to live near a prison. The prisoners are on the inside they are locked up. And if one does escape the last thing he is going to do is hang around the neighborhood. He is going to do everything he can to get as far away as possible."

[BadKarma]

As George Carlin once said. (paraphrasing here) "I do not understand why people are so afraid to live near a prison. The prisoners are on the inside they are locked up. And if one does escape the last thing he is going to do is hang around the neighborhood. He is going to do everything he can to get as far away as possible."

I miss George Carlin, R.I.P Ole funny man, R.I.P.

Also put em in Riker's Island here in NY, the fucking thing is on an Island, with retractable bridges and 20 ft high walls, its also surrounded by water that would probably catch fire if a spark fell in it.

[Mizango]

its also surrounded by water that would probably catch fire if a spark fell in it.

HAHA I cant tell you how much I agree with this.

[Jer]

I always figured people complained about living near prisons for the same reason some people complain about living near the border. Sure, neither prisoners nor illegals plan on hanging around, but that won't stop them from taking something they need to get away.

Then again, I just never saw why people complained about living where they do. Move away. Unless some magical prison or border popped up overnight, you chose to move there.

[Kaludneisucks]

It's more of a fear of spreading their ideologies then a fear of an escape. Although, there has been past events which had Al Qaeda break out their members from prison from the outside via an attack.

This, if they have access to the yard and people who have nothing to live for already they have the opp. to spread their ways and further jeapordize the security of Our Fair land. If the american government was any kind of baller, theyd just begin summary executions for people they dont plan on releasing anyhow.

[Kuya]

This, if they have access to the yard and people who have nothing to live for already they have the opp. to spread their ways and further jeapordize the security of Our Fair land. If the american government was any kind of baller, theyd just begin summary executions for people they dont plan on releasing anyhow.

You're probably being sarcastic, but i'd like to take the chance to mention, that though the portrayal of the detainees in Guantanamo has been of blood thirsty demons, no mention or attention has been paid to the fact that many of the detainees are actually innocent, in fact, we already know of many who are innocent but are nonetheless held against their will. This case is particularly interesting:

The United States government has held twenty-two Uyghurs in Guantanamo Bay detainment camp. Eighteen of the detainees were present at Combatant Status Review Tribunals (CSRTs) conducted by the U.S. military to review their cases.

Uyghurs are an ethnic group from Central Asia and Xinjiang province in western China.[1]

The Uyghurs call their homeland East Turkestan.

The Washington Post reported on August 24, 2005 that fifteen Uyghurs had been determined to be "No longer enemy combatants" (NLEC) after all.[2] The Post reported that detainees who had been classified as NLEC were, not only still being incarcerated, but were still being shackled to the floor. Five of these Uyghurs, who had filed for writs of habeas corpus, were transported to Albania on May 5, 2006 just prior to a scheduled judicial review of their petitions. As of June 22, 2008, seventeen Uyghur men remain incarcerated at Guantanamo. Two years ago, an Administrative Review Board declared all but one to be "approved for release." The Pentagon had previously determined, reportedly as early as 2003, that the Uyghurs should be released. They continue to be incarcerated

Uyghur captives in Guantanamo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It seems that China doesn't want them released, and some nations won't take them because China is threatening the nations that present any interest in taking the Uyghurs.

[Deftscythe]

It's more of a fear of spreading their ideologies then a fear of an escape. Although, there has been past events which had Al Qaeda break out their members from prison from the outside via an attack.

Simple, isolate them. Don't let them interact with other prisoners. It's already very common for prisoners in "super-max" facilities to spend all but 30-60 minutes in their cells alone. I'm not sure if prisons are legally obligated to let them spend any time out of their cells, but if so it's not hard to isolate a plot of the yard for them.

[Rhinox]

Elvis, make sure you send the military your address, so they can dump these guys in the closest super-max to your house, and then tell me it's not a security issue.

Reps balked because the people they represent don't want these jag-offs in their back yard, can't say I blame them. It's got nothing to do with conspiracies and whacked off theories about pictures they don't want us to see. Extremist muslims want to blow us up because we are not extremist muslims, 'what we've done to them' is just a red herring.

oh llol.

[Rhinox]

btw theres is more then 300 so called terrorists in Super-max prisons now. You scared of them?

[Kuya]

One thing that has always bothered was that it has been argued that we can keep these people locked up until the war is over. That war being the war on terror. I should also mention that many wars involving the US have been characterized by the stripping of civil rights. I do recall a movie being censored once, i think in WW2, that apparently portrayed the English as enemies during the war and it was shut down.

Anyway, one thing is arguing that civil rights and laws can be broken during a war... but all of that is supposed to be argued under the guise that a war will end. And to those that deny that it is considered a war... well you'd have to answer me as to why the president is called a war president even after his administration has stopped saying "War on Terror", and in the media this is all still talked about as some sort of war. My point: what happens to civil rights and laws when you wage war on an idea? Does it ever end?

[ZarakiKujata]

It's more of a fear of spreading their ideologies then a fear of an escape. Although, there has been past events which had Al Qaeda break out their members from prison from the outside via an attack.

Yeah I'm sure their ideology/religious beliefs will go over quite well with ANY OTHER GANG IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM... has Al Qaeda or any other terrorist group broken out terrorists from US prisons? Sorry but the 1993 WTC bombers are still in prison and have not even had a breakout attempt in 16 years?

Carlin's whole prison routine is quite cogent to this especially because it deals with all the NIMBY bullshit that is currently going on..