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    Oh that's something I hadn't thought about on bind. Would be something to look into.

    Also as for the people sitting there, I assume they're there in case he dies, so the NM isn't wasted. I don't remember them taking hate, but it's been a few months since I watched it.
    I posted it mainly just to demonstrate damage, he gets some really respectable damage given the MP cost of the spell. (Also I think a portion of the video was on Watersday, which exaggerates his numbers a bit.)

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    honestly I don't see how in the hell you can get 150 mnd with blu. >.> Gear / spel list plz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by el_tio View Post
    honestly I don't see how in the hell you can get 150 mnd with blu. >.> Gear / spel list plz.
    I don't know what he used, but this gives 62+77=139 MND to a Hume BLU/RDM.

    http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3461/mindblast.th.jpg

    Could squeeze out 3 more MND with raptor+1, aslan, and that weird MND+1 ranged thing that I don't think I've ever actually seen ingame. Then there's the MND+10 goblin food which would more than put you over the top.

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    Keep in mind that as long as you don't get resisted you can not use AF1 body since unlike physical spells, blue magic skill doesn't increase the damage tier on magical ones.
    My current MND setup is:

    Raptor Strap +1 (+2)
    Tamas Ring (+5)
    Aqua Ring (+5)
    Penitent's Rope (+5)
    Morrigan Legs (+10)
    Morrigan feet (+10)
    Morrigan Head (+4)
    Morrigan Body (+8 )
    Prism Cape (+4)

    So that's +53 from gear alone.

    Now about the spells...

    Reactor Cool (+3)
    Power Attack (+1)
    Mind Blast (+1)
    Regurgitation (+1)
    Hydro Shot (+2)
    Venom Shell (+2)
    Poison Breath (+1)
    Cursed Sphere (+1)
    Sprout Smack (+2)
    Maelstrom (+2)
    Magic Hammer (+2)
    Bad Breath (+2)
    Tail Slap (+2)
    Awful Eye (+1)


    +23 from spells and 42 spell points used so far.

    As elvaan BLU/RDM my base MND is 67 so the currently listed spells and gear would put me at 143. Don't have MND+ earrings/neck at the moment, those would put me above 150.

    I'm fairly certain you don't need Morrigan legs/feet if you can stack MND in other slots (earrings, neck, hands) and you can still get to 150.

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    You would need to set specific spells and get specific merits to get any decent numbers on any nuke, really. In my oppinion, you might as well go for a Cannonball setup instead, since meriting for physical spells is going to be more beneficial overall (elsewhere). And you'll get higher numbers out of Cannonball anyway. :/

    Only problem is that most of Cannonball's gear comes from the AH, and have big price tags. Most of the gear needed for mind blast/eyes on me comes/regurgitation is r/ex. Though... If you want to nuke, you should probably just level BLM. It's a shame SE didn't make our nukes more worthwhile when they did SMN merit BPs.


    EDIT: More power to you if you're asking about physically resistant mobs though. >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgaer View Post
    You would need to set specific spells and get specific merits to get any decent numbers on any nuke, really. In my oppinion, you might as well go for a Cannonball setup instead, since meriting for physical spells is going to be more beneficial overall (elsewhere). And you'll get higher numbers out of Cannonball anyway. :/

    Only problem is that most of Cannonball's gear comes from the AH, and have big price tags. Most of the gear needed for mind blast/eyes on me comes/regurgitation is r/ex. Though... If you want to nuke, you should probably just level BLM. It's a shame SE didn't make our nukes more worthwhile when they did SMN merit BPs.


    EDIT: More power to you if you're asking about physically resistant mobs though. >.>
    The point of nuke sets is to be effective on Non-SATA/Breath Resistant mobs. However, I agree that much of the gear required for BLU to nuke is also shared by BLMs (Which might persuade someone to level BLM).

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    @Kaeko
    I understand that there's a difference, if there was no difference I wouldn't have to ask the question basically my question was how viable is BLU nuking for HNMs and what gear is necessary to make it viable. I was just curious, really. BLU nukes are really cool o:

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    Quote Originally Posted by el_tio View Post
    honestly I don't see how in the hell you can get 150 mnd with blu. >.> Gear / spel list plz.
    Goblin Mushpot +10 MND

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevex View Post
    Raptor Strap +1 (+2)
    Tamas Ring (+5)
    Aqua Ring (+5)
    Penitent's Rope (+5)
    Morrigan Legs (+10)
    Morrigan feet (+10)
    Morrigan Head (+4)
    Morrigan Body (+8 )
    Prism Cape (+4)
    BLU can wear also Aslan Cape (+5), Devotee's +1 (+6) (maybe better than morrigan if you MB, definitely worse for Firespit), Promise Badge/Morgana's Choker (+5) (whenever uglypendant latent isn't active).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkSammich View Post
    This thread is great. One thing I would like to mention in regards to standing behind Faf ans spamming it is that Regurgitation has knock back, and I believe someone caused a flail w/ head butt knock back a long time ago?

    Also here's a video displaying how wtf broken Regurgitation can be:
    青ソロでScitalis 赤ソロ日記 [動画倉庫] - 動画共有サイトzoome

    He's able to pull a few 900+ Regurgitation from the front with the use of convergence.
    Anyway, post more. This is good stuff.
    That's broken, blizzard 3 damages with nearly flawless bind for 60~ MP, I want that.

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    That is one of the most interesting soloist blogs I've seen in awhile. Actual new ideas omg.

    You can probably get a few "BLU Only" unique solos out of Regurg if you think hard enough... hmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgaer View Post
    You would need to set specific spells and get specific merits to get any decent numbers on any nuke, really.
    Uhm, what?

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    Magical Accuracy and Convergence is what he is talking about I believe.

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    link doesn't seem to work?

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    Click the JP link that's under the video, should say BITtorrent in it somewhere, I belive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    Magical Accuracy and Convergence is what he is talking about I believe.
    Well no shit, but you don't need either to nuke effectively. Convergence is just some extra damage/macc on a ten minute cooldown, and full magic accuracy merits is what, a 5% difference in resist rates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    Well no shit, but you don't need either to nuke effectively. Convergence is just some extra damage/macc on a ten minute cooldown, and full magic accuracy merits is what, a 5% difference in resist rates?
    yea 5/5 double attack is what, a 5% difference in double attack rate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eva00r View Post
    yea 5/5 double attack is what, a 5% difference in double attack rate?
    Yeah, because wars can cap out their double attack rate without DA merits right? Or magic burst their attacks to make DA mostly irrelevant? What a terrible comparison.

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    check the formal macc thread
    10 macc is a 10% reduction in resists when resist rate <50%
    when resist rate >50% its a 5% reduction

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    Our linkshell's resident Taru BLU was able to get extremely hefty Regurgitations also. Between watching him play his BLU and reading this thread, I've decided to level the job. Unfortunately, I have a Sorcerer's Petasos for my level 37 BLM so I feel compelled to level that first.

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