North Korea 2nd Nuke Test

[Senoska]

So putting ourselves on the same level some how justified our actions?

[Rammses]

A lot of the people of germany WERE the nazis... and it didnt take a full "nazi" to disrespect/harm jewish people.

But it didn't take nukes for them to learn their lesson, no? Germany turned out quite alright?

Unecessary killing of civilians is never justifiable.

[HadesChubbs]

But it didn't take nukes for them to learn their lesson, no? Germany turned out quite alright?

Unecessary killing of civilians is never justifiable.

Nukes? Naw. Punch in the face? Sure.

[Celeste]

If those were american civilians, there will be no sympathy. And you made it out as if nazis and germany people are black and white.

I suppose in your logic, the innocent people being tortured in various prisons throughout Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay should have every right to move to the USA, and bomb US civilians for the crimes we committed against them.

I hope you will be their most staunch ally.

[0ni0n]

I suppose in your logic, the innocent people being tortured in various prisons throughout Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay should have every right to move to the USA, and bomb US civilians for the crimes we committed against them.

I hope you will be their most staunch ally.

Will I personally drop the nukes? Probably not. Will I feel sorry for japan being nuked considering all the extremely wicked stuff they have done during WWII? No. You won't find a scintilla of sympathy here.

[Kisamoo]

It's easy to say all of this now because we live in such a grey world, but things were black and white back then. Is it so hard for the people arguing here to accept that what was justifiable and acceptable back then doesn't apply to our new 21st century world?

[Celeste]

Will I personally drop the nukes? Probably not. Will I feel sorry for japan being nuked considering all the extremely wicked stuff they have done during WWII? No. You won't find a scintilla of sympathy here.

Wait, what? So, it is okay for the detained civilians who suffered in American custody throughout the war in Afghanistan/Iraq to butcher American citizens based on how they suffered in the hands of American military personal? Really?

No sympathy for the American people then.

[HadesChubbs]

It's easy to say all of this now because we live in such a grey world, but things were black and white back then. Is it so hard for the people arguing here to accept that what was justifiable and acceptable back then doesn't apply to our new 21st century world?

BUT THE CIVILIANS

[Senoska]

It's easy to say all of this now because we live in such a grey world, but things were black and white back then. Is it so hard for the people arguing here to accept that what was justifiable and acceptable back then doesn't apply to our new 21st century world?

Yes. We killed 300,000 civilians in a country that was trying its hardest to surrender practically unconditionally.

It's very hard to understand.

[0ni0n]

Wait, what? So, it is okay for the detained civilians who suffered in American custody throughout the war in Afghanistan/Iraq to butcher American citizens based on how they suffered in the hands of American military personal? Really?

The two events aren't comparable.

[HadesChubbs]

Yes. We killed 300,000 civilians in a country that was trying its hardest to surrender practically unconditionally.

It's very hard to understand.

When they did what they did, you cant just say "lolsurrender" and get away with it. After a huge kick in the pants, then we were willing to say "kk even". The whole world isn't rainbows and butterflies, shit has to be done that isn't fair.

[Celeste]

The two events aren't comparable.

Sure they are! Don't pussy out of the argument you're trying to make. Don't fucking do that, man.

When they did what they did, you cant just say "lolsurrender" and get away with it. After a huge kick in the pants, then we were willing to say "kk even". The whole world isn't rainbows and butterflies, shit has to be done that isn't fair.

I pray the next person you argue with offline stabs you in the face. An eye for an eye, after all. Or would that be unfair? Let's talk about fairness, hahaha.

[0ni0n]

Sure they are! Don't pussy out of the argument you're trying to make. Don't fucking do that, man.

The enormity and magnitude are on a completely different scale.

[Senoska]

0ni0n, no bullshit, I think you're probably retarded. The little respect I had for you is lost and you are a disgrace to the etrade baby.

[0ni0n]

0ni0n, no bullshit, I think you're probably retarded. The little respect I had for you is lost and you are a disgrace to the etrade baby.

Our feelings are mutual.

[Celeste]

The enormity and magnitude are on a completely different scale.

No, they're perfectly on scale. You lost the argument, sweetie. If you want to argue for another 30 minutes until you understand, it's alright. The fact of the matter is actions taken by a military should not be punished on it's country's civilians. The enormity and magnitude of dropping atomic weapons, that split the very fabric of our reality, is incomparable.

And yes, I also believe oni0n ate too many paint chips as a child.

[0ni0n]

No, they're perfectly on scale. You lost the argument, sweetie. If you want to argue for another 30 minutes until you understand, it's alright. The fact of the matter is actions taken by a military should not be punished on it's country's civilians. The enormity and magnitude of dropping atomic weapons, that split the very fabric of our reality is incomparable.

Say that to the millions of dead civilians in korea and china.

[Celeste]

Say that to the millions of dead civilians in korea and china.

You're missing the point here, my friend. I believe it is the retardation at work.

[Kisamoo]

There's really no argument when all you guys are doing is playing internet good guys about shit that has already happened. If your morales were worth anything, you'd have an active role in the community and probably wouldn't be riding the internet high horse you're on right now.

[HadesChubbs]

How does one completely ignore the other side of the argument (what Japan did), yet keep arguing their side, and feel it has any validity?

If you say "shame on US" for civilian killing, you should be saying the same about Japan. There was no argument to win, as you weren't arguing you were stating your feelings while ignoring facts.