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  1. #21
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    yeah. as usual you just need to make sure that the official record (anything you say through FFXI) reads that it was a mistake and you're likely to be fine. most players regard the chatlog as invisible to GMs and are shocked when ls chat is used to burn them. say in LS "i'm going to go see if i can take a picture of dark ixion!" then on voice chat say "i'm scaring DI so the other LS can't get it" and you're probably in the clear. while it's never a sure thing, plausible deniability goes a long way.

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    People should just stop being cocks and scaring him (ya right like that'll ever happen.) It's incredibly annoying extending a 3hr camp because your LS can't claim worth shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio View Post
    say in LS "i'm going to go see if i can take a picture of dark ixion!" then on voice chat say "i'm scaring DI so the other LS can't get it" and you're probably in the clear. while it's never a sure thing, plausible deniability goes a long way.
    You can also say nothing in LS chat, and play dumb if a GM contacts you. Who is to say you know anything about how to claim this NM? Maybe you were just trying to Provoke it. Even if you have fought it before, maybe you forgot the requirements.

    The whole spooking thing was fun for a little bit as people had to figure it out. Now it's just a dumb way to block claim.

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    I usually would not say that it is always the (Lesser) GM's fault for not knowing stuff like this but in this case, I'll make an exception. That has to be the worst GM I have ever seen.

  5. #25
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    Wow what a moron GM....

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    You definitely won't get banned for "scaring" Ixion, that's how the monster works.
    You might get banned for doing it excessively, however. With the support of chat logs GM's can classify it as a "grief tactic". Hence, the "further investigation" part.

  7. #27
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    And GM's became knowledgeable about the game when?

  8. #28
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    GMs are just Customer Service Reps, I hope people aren't still expecting miracles.

  9. #29
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    I think it would behoove everyone to understand GM's are basically level 1 customer service. If you call any company's customer service line you're gonna get that underpaid employee who just got done with the weekly team meeting about how they didn't meet their KPMs for the 17th week in a row, who pretty much hates their fucking job. They could not possibly care less about your Ixion drama I'm sure. Not that I think it's ok for them to not really know shit or even care; but I have just come to accept reality about these types of things.

  10. #30
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    FFXI is pretty massive so you can't expect GM's who don't necessarily play the game 24/7, or even play at all, to know the in's and out's of every aspect in this game. For shits and giggles, go ask one for some random information about a level 50 capped Garrison in Eastern Altepa.

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    All GMs supposedly play the game but ya look how many hardcore players just completely ignorant to certain things in the game.

  12. #32
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    GMs are Tech Support. When will your brains register this? You've only had over 6 years.

  13. #33
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    But BRP, they are supposed to be MASTERS.

  14. #34
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    Didn't a GM die to Vrtra when someone POS'd it to the top floor by the Spook camp a couple of years back?

  15. #35
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    No, that was a Nidhogg I think. Forgot to turn on invincibility. Somebody did POS hack Vrtra to the top, but the GM just killed it in like 12 hits.

  16. #36
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    the difference is that tech support says "i'm sorry, we can't help you." GM's say "you're banned, i'm sorry we can't help you." it would be more akin to calling your bank and having a grumpy person on the phone decide that you shouldn't have access to your money in the account anymore. obviously this is a little extreme as we're not dealing with real money here, but the point is clear i think. while they have the intelligence of your average script reading brain dead tech support monkey, they also have vast, sweeping power to back up their ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio View Post
    the difference is that tech support says "i'm sorry, we can't help you." GM's say "you're banned, i'm sorry we can't help you." it would be more akin to calling your bank and having a grumpy person on the phone decide that you shouldn't have access to your money in the account anymore. obviously this is a little extreme as we're not dealing with real money here, but the point is clear i think. while they have the intelligence of your average script reading brain dead tech support monkey, they also have vast, sweeping power to back up their ignorance.
    They might if you were doing illegal shit with your account.

  18. #38
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    Lol, we GM'd a JP LS for stealing an Aspid... and this same GM(Cocoloot) said to us it's okay to steal monsters using the game mechanics.
    So phail

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyManIac View Post
    Lol, we GM'd a JP LS for stealing an Aspid... and this same GM(Cocoloot) said to us it's okay to steal monsters using the game mechanics.
    So phail
    By steal do you mean took it when it went yellow? Then yes, that is perfectly within the rules and mechanics of the game.

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    Wow, I've never seen a GM speak such bad English.

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