Couple Ordered to Stop Holding Bible Study at Home Without Permit

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How is this thread still going? 14 pages of questioning and answering not fulfilling enough?

[guartz]

I think I may actually like you now guartz!

Must be a passing illness. I'll be okay soon.

[Max™]

The point isn't that this case was of people being assholes to their neighbors.

Fucking oath, guys.

The county was notified of the situation by some random dick, the situation was a violation of certain rules, those rules were put in place so if your neighbor starts a brothel but won't let you get a discount, you can go report him for it (not exact, but by now you get the idea).

If the rule was not there, you have to deal with johns and whores cumming and going next door all night and day, since the rule is there, if you happen to be this pastor, you can get slapped with a major use violation.

Ordering is everything.

[guartz]

It doesn't make that regulation right or legal, Max.

[Norellicus]

It doesn't make that regulation right or legal, Max.

Technically by definition it's "legal" if it's a posted county reg...

Just not right/ethically sound

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Basics of Zoning Laws | Business.gov

Conditional Use
A conditional use is a use which is permitted under a zoning ordinance, but which must meet certain conditions. For example, a zoning ordinance may permit professional offices in a residential zone if at least four off-street parking places are provided.

When a use is conditional, the zoning ordinance often will require the property owner to file an application with local officials so that they may determine whether the conditions have been met.

Saying zoning ordinances are a conspiracy by the masses to ensure they can fairly partake of whatever their neighbors are doing is asinine.

There's more in the article that, without going into too much detail, does explain the base points of zoning, and it uses language that leaves it open for someone without a forward agenda to re-interpret or someone that lacks reading comprehension skills can clearly see that some situations are based not on the nature of the activity ( lolreligion persecution ), but the concept and design of the location of the units residing there.

[Demosthenes11]

I still can't believe people think it's right that you need to pay thousands of dollars to hold a weekly bible study in your home

[Gadritan]

Should be millions imo.

[Wolfknight]

I still can't believe people think it's right that you need to pay thousands of dollars to hold a weekly bible study in your home

this a thousand times, I mean if they were asking like a max 100 dollars for the permit, I'd say meh and just pay it, but 10k is absurd.

[Gadritan]

You have to remember the terminology used here.

But the major use permit could cost the Jones' thousands of dollars

They love using vague terms to skew things in their favor.

Just like:

a few friends over.

To me a few friends is 2-5 people. In this case it's 10-15 people consistently.

Use words like "could," "possibly," "may," etc, and you can say just about anything you want to and call it a fact.

[Max™]

Basics of Zoning Laws | Business.gov





Saying zoning ordinances are a conspiracy by the masses to ensure they can fairly partake of whatever their neighbors are doing is asinine.

Assuming that was at my brothel next door comment...

REALLY? That's what you got from that? I was being sarcastic, I just forgot the [MOTHERFUCKING OBVIOUS ASS SARCASM][/HEY, I WAS BEING SARCASTIC, GOT IT MOTHERFUCKERS?] tags. My bad.

There's more in the article that, without going into too much detail, does explain the base points of zoning, and it uses language that leaves it open for someone without a forward agenda to re-interpret or someone that lacks reading comprehension skills can clearly see that some situations are based not on the nature of the activity ( lolreligion persecution ), but the concept and design of the location of the units residing there.

It makes it legal and fair... know why?

YOU AGREED TO ACCEPT IT BY LIVING THERE.

Ta fucking da.

Here's your point: (>o<)

Here's your point now: (KERFUCKINGBLOOEY)

Any questions?

[Dimmauk]

I still can't believe people think it's right that you need to pay thousands of dollars to hold a weekly bible study in your home

I cant believe people just dont carpool.

[Max™]

I cant believe people just dont carpool.

http://img81.exs.cx/img81/531/parkay.jpg

[Demosthenes11]

I cant believe people just dont carpool.

evidence where?

[Denchi]

People have like....house parties... all the time. I honestly can't imagine it's an issue of crowding or something, unless the city is completely fucking anal.

As far as "following the rules," Jaywalking is a crime too, and blowjobs in certain states, and probably sneezing in the wrong direction. Grow the fuck up if you're defending this on a basis of "omg it's the law LOLZ HAHAHA"

[Blarg]

If the neighbors have a problem with it then yes they should stop or get that permit but if no one really cares aside from 1 or 2 people then they should be able to continue even though it's against zoning laws.

[Gregorio]

People have like....house parties... all the time. I honestly can't imagine it's an issue of crowding or something, unless the city is completely fucking anal.

As far as "following the rules," Jaywalking is a crime too, and blowjobs in certain states, and probably sneezing in the wrong direction. Grow the fuck up if you're defending this on a basis of "omg it's the law LOLZ HAHAHA"

^

Thank you. Stupid laws are stupid laws.

[Ziero]

The county was notified of the situation by some random dick, the situation was a violation of certain rules, those rules were put in place so if your neighbor starts a brothel but won't let you get a discount, you can go report him for it (not exact, but by now you get the idea).

If the rule was not there, you have to deal with johns and whores cumming and going next door all night and day, since the rule is there, if you happen to be this pastor, you can get slapped with a major use violation.

Ordering is everything.

If the violation was specifically and solely about the traffic zoning issue, then why wasn't that mentioned in any way shape or form in the original citation? The original issue focused specifically about what they were doing inside the house and not how the cars were parked. And when this issue was brought to the press, the County withdrew the original citation to refocus their case on it being a parking issue.

It makes it legal and fair... know why?

YOU AGREED TO ACCEPT IT BY LIVING THERE.

Ta fucking da.

Here's your point: (>o<)

Here's your point now: (KERFUCKINGBLOOEY)

Any questions?

Zoning issues are often unfair and archaic and are fought in courts because of that. I myself posted a personal experience highlighting that fact. Where even though the town "legally" was correct, their judgment was still unfair and ultimately overturned in a court of law. Zoning laws aren't written in stone, nor are they always enforced 100% of the time. When issues like this occur, when it wasn't a problem for five years, and public outcry is opposed to the "zoning issue", the County's usually lose out in the end.

You have to remember the terminology used here.

They love using vague terms to skew things in their favor.

Just like:

To me a few friends is 2-5 people. In this case it's 10-15 people consistently.

Use words like "could," "possibly," "may," etc, and you can say just about anything you want to and call it a fact.

The fact is the County is requiring these people to spend thousands of dollars to do something people all over the country do EVERY SINGLE DAY. No matter how you cut it, for them to obtain a Major Use permit, they would need to spend thousands of dollars to get their private residence up to public business code and have to pay annually to maintain their permit. All because they have a small gathering of friends weekly. No amount of "terminology" will change that fact.

[Max™]

Fine, ban religious gatherings without permits.

That works for me, then we can round up all the people with permits, and force them to be educated about reality, or get put down.

lol

Funny part is, you'd think I was kidding, but seriously, religion is a fucking horrible thing.

[Demosthenes11]

wow man atheists are so cool and ahead of the curve and hip, I wish I could be like them

edit: Atheists: the new apple users