RNG Noob gear

[Thunder]

It's just +5stp afaik, Drace said he's tested it on KI and here in BG somewhere.
Set is unlocked for +5stp with two pieces of gear and it's at +10 stp with a third piece.. and then +20 with the body? That's a little weird, but if the two pieces gave +10 then it'd give way for a better 5hit, I think.

[Cele]

I use RNG mostly in Dyna Xarc, Odin, and some random Assaults/BC's, and I'm a Elvaan. Also I got Sattva ring so no Rajas here, and no Mirke too because a picked up Nuevo. And I got 2 merits in Archery skill. Taking this as note, here is my current set up.

TP:

Vulcan's Staff/Axe Grip
Vali's Bow/Demon/Kabura
Hunter's Beret/Optical hat
Peacock Charm
Triumph Earring/Vision Earring
Kirin's Osode
Blood Fng. Gnt.
Behemoth Ring +1/Behemoth Ring +1
Amemet Mantle +1
Precise Belt
Scout's Braccae
Scout's Socks


WS:

Vulcan's Staff/Axe Grip
Vali's Bow/Demon/Kabura (don't have PPA yet)
Wyvern helm
Peacock Charm (need UFO organ for Breeze)
Triumph Earring/Drone earring (yeah)
Kirin's Osode
Seiryu's Kote
Triumph ring/Behemoth Ring +1
Amemet Mantle +1
Royal Knight's +2
Pahluwan Seraweels
Scout's Socks

Barrage

Just add Optical hat, AF1 body, AF1 +1 hands, Dusk Trousers.

Any sugestions? TP in AF1 over Ohat even if not +1 yet? TP in Pahluwan or Dusk over AF2 legs? (I got 4/4 merits in enmity+). TP in Triumph/Behe +1 rings or keep Behe +1 x2? TP in Precise belt or Royal +2 till I get Scouts/Buccaneers? WS with Triumph/Drone earrings or Triumph/Vision? (yeah I don't have a second Triumph yet). WS in Triumph/Behe +1 or buy another Triumph/Flame? TP in Blood or Seiryu? WS in Blood or Seiryu?

Yeah, lol.

[Vodou]

if the only thing you're concerned about is the max damage you can do over time, you need to be using a 5hit setup ->

TP:

Mekki Shakki
Axe Grip
Vali's Bow/Selene's Bow - Note that Selene's 5hits with this setup and enkidu's, vali's needs skadi. Selene's bow with 5hit beats Vali's with 6hit.
Kabura Arrows
Hunter's Beret +1/Quadav
Peacock Charm/Hope torque
Triumph Earring
Triumph Earring
Seiryu's Kote
Behemoth Ring +1
Rajas
Amemet Mantle +1
Buccaneer's Belt/Scout's Belt
Skadi's Chausses/Enkidu's Subligar
Cobra Leggings

WS:

Mekki Shakki
Axe Grip
Vali's Bow/Selene's Bow
Patriarch Protectors Arrow
Ohat/Enkidu's/Barbut
Aqua/Breeze Gorgets
Triumph Earring
Triumph Earring
Kirin's Osode/Mirke Wardecors
Seiryu's Kote
Behe+1 Ring
Rajas Ring
Amemet Mantle +1
Buccaneer's Belt/Scout's Belt
Enkidu's Subligar/Skadi's Chausses
Cobra Unit Leggings

I assume you are /sam. Otherwise my TP math is getting other results.

If /sam, there's been room to debate in ranger threads whether /sam 5-hit (especially using mekki, cobra feet) will compare to /war with 6-hit, using vulcan / scouts.

On the WS, if my assumptions are correct, could swap out for scout socks +1 and hachi pants tho.

[Spider-Dan]

I don't see much room for argument.

On merit mobs, I've broken 3k WS as /SAM. When you have dual support, 'zerk loses a lot of its impact. When you add in other factors (read: seigan, meditate), it's really not that close.

On HNM, 'zerk definitely makes an impact... but you won't be rapidfiring 100 TP slugs at HNM anyway, so x-hit becomes marginal.

[Vodou]

I don't see much room for argument.

On merit mobs, I've broken 3k WS as /SAM. When you have dual support, 'zerk loses a lot of its impact. When you add in other factors (read: seigan, meditate), it's really not that close.

On HNM, 'zerk definitely makes an impact... but you won't be rapidfiring 100 TP slugs at HNM anyway, so x-hit becomes marginal.

Yup, well my point was muddled since I was thinking more end-game. Yes, totally right on as far as xp and proper support, /war loses a lot of its strong points.

I guess the debates I was mentioning were equally muddled on where the rng was being used, but no matter. There is obviously a place where /sam works well.

[Thorny]

Yup, well my point was muddled since I was thinking more end-game. Yes, totally right on as far as xp and proper support, /war loses a lot of its strong points.

I guess the debates I was mentioning were equally muddled on where the rng was being used, but no matter. There is obviously a place where /sam works well.

even endgame, /sam excels as long as you have proper support. RDM BRD COR RNG RNG RNG stomps all over RDM BRD RNG RNG RNG RNG in DD parties, for example. If your LS is idiotic or doesn't have access to enough brds or cors, then /war may outdamage /sam.