Serious AV attempt by JPs on Midgard

[Andradi]

AV was zergable for a brief period after him and PW got the nerf and 2 hour time limit.

Realising they had accidentally made it beatable, they changed AV (after a week or so?) so souleater does basically nothing.

During that ~week period a few linkshells were able to farm it.

[Furionstormrage]

That's... just wow. I'm sorry, but you really need to not glorify a group of players based on their nationality. There are great shells and dick shells in all nationalities.

Putting these people up on a pedestal because they are JP, or even demoralizing NA shells because they are NA, is just stupid.

I never got any of that out of the post you're referring to, you seem a little oversensitive.

[Argettio]

That's... just wow. I'm sorry, but you really need to not glorify a group of players based on their nationality. There are great shells and dick shells in all nationalities.

Putting these people up on a pedestal because they are JP, or even demoralizing NA shells because they are NA, is just stupid.

Um... His praise was based on his experience with them, his knowledge of their dedication to the game and their achievements... not their country of origin.

He never said there was no dick JP shells, or good NA shells.

[nyglypz]

anyway, back on topic.....

Most of that is just "Thanks for coming" "Thanks for your hardwork" "Good try", etc.

The only thing I can't personally translate entirely is Miyuu's messages. Someone else will have to do that one. Literally everything else is just the "Thanks" messages though.

tyvm for this^

hopefully somthing can be pulled from Miyuu's messages, if not maybe we'll hear some light shed on AV from this attempt; even if it's just an exact lockout combination on a few 2hrs...

i fear, though, that as more time goes by and as more and more ppl feel they are "ignored' by the dev's that eventually nobody will give 2 anymore, or less then they do now.

[Mayareira]

Got a question. I was told AV was defeated by 18 DRKs with kraken before. Can I know if it is true? I have not seen any post on that. Just want to verify. Thank you.

Yes it got defeated by zerg method, followed by an emergency maintenance that gave AV souleater resistance.
Topic is somewhere in the advanced section.

[Midnightjade]

PhantomBrigade is Lei's old shell, heavy duty HNM with a strong honor/loyalty code. It looks as though they've decided to figure AV out once and for all.

No idea how many pop sets they have but I'm betting it's a lot.

[Snprphnx]

hope they figure this out. tired of SE having an unbeatable NM to laugh at us about

[Gtype954]

I didn't think AVs 2 hours could ever be locked.
Everyone thought there was a trick to AV and PW like locking 2 hours or "skipping forms", but that was not the case.

PW was killed without any form skipping and a later interview said you just have to fight AV as it is, survive and win.

But as I see more and more attempts from both the BG forums and in the actual game in person.
I do notice that he know has a pattern and tends to use 3 of his 2 hour abilities much more then the others.
For us its always bloodweapon,hundred fists, and chainspell.
he always does call wyvern on the 2nd SP, then never does it again.
So his pattern on the 3 times we fought him were Bloodweapon,Callwyvern, (we kite the wyverns), Chainspell, hundred fists. Then the pattern repeats, bloodweapon,hundredfists,chainspell.
We usually die on the 2nd or 3rd cycle cause the monster is too much for us and so are the chainspells.
But the fact that he always uses hundredfists and chainspell for alot of people that attempt him is weird. Its not his 2 hrs that kill us, its his attack power, attack speed, and TP moves. He would kill our LS regardless of if he had any 2 hours to begin with or not. We have never seen his 4th cycle of 2 hours to determine if it was indeed the same exact pattern.

The SE video shows.....

1. People using alot of 2 hrs right when the dustcloud animation goes off.
If the 2 hrs could indeed be locked, there maybe there is a 10% chance of it and thats why all the jobs 2 hr. Maybe you need 10 jobs to do it to get a 100% lock in.

If you successfully lock it, it restores your 2 hours?? If so, how come noone has gotten them restored yet then. Besieged and wild card did not exist at the time of that video.

2. Nuking from tier I tier II, tier III, tier IV.
I originally thought this was for MP conservation and hate control at the start of the fight, but you might have to nuke in a number order per each character. Constantly casting water I on watersday caused him to manafont more? Casting water element on him causes him to use water element 2 hours more? (he used Meiko and manafont multiple times if I read correctly)

If that is true, I would avoid fighting him on windsday because of his wind spells and power, watersday because those are his most deadly 2 hrs, lightsday because light nukes are weak.

I would choose iceday because ice spells are strong, lightning days comes after it which is also strong spells, and AV is wind element so should be his weakest on iceday. The rdm spams Dark spells for hate in the video though, the PLD uses flash, and to pull the wyverns they use diaga.
I would assume dark and light spells are exempt from the nuke/day theory.
But nothing makes sense in that video to me, not even why they all used 2 hrs.

I think SE needs to stop making fake videos and show us how AV can die in 1 hour. (assuming your JOL took 1 hr to milk all the regen from pets). I would assume the legit method only takes an hour to defeat and a 1 hour video is not impossible to make. Your video is fake SE. Stop lying to people.

[Max™]

lmfao

Besieged and Wild Card definitely existed when SE made that video, it was last year.

Wtf, I'd go into the obvious fucking statements SE gave which should be the method to defeat him, but no one cares or is willing to actively test this shit anymore.


"YOU HAVE TO BREAK HIS REGEN" means something.

[Deelo]

i don't get whats special about this attempt in any regard except for the sheer amount of people, everything stated here has been tried in past groups with better results.

Whats special about it is that people are still making the attempts and trying to figure it out.

I think thats pretty cool

[isladar]

Unfortunately I think most of us are tired of reading through the same shit being attempted over and over again. It's great people are trying, let's hear it when they win.

[nyglypz]

but no one cares or is willing to actively test this shit anymore.

reklick ---> http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/75780...s-midgard.html

[thetruepandagod]

Whats special about it is that people are still making the attempts and trying to figure it out.

I think thats pretty cool

Just tried 5 AV fights 2 weeks ago... just because we arent posting our failed attempts and meteor spam and billion hp benedictions doesn't mean no one is still trying....

Wtf, I'd go into the obvious fucking statements SE gave which should be the method to defeat him, but no one cares or is willing to actively test this shit anymore.


"YOU HAVE TO BREAK HIS REGEN" means something.

care to PM me your super plan so that i can test it? usually break his regen in about 8-10min then pray we get lucky and well... we dont.

edit: if anyone could simply find out how to lock benediction this would be killable... just not in a way that people would be willing to do often or repeatedly

[Virtuous Saint]

I didn't think AVs 2 hours could ever be locked.
Everyone thought there was a trick to AV and PW like locking 2 hours or "skipping forms", but that was not the case.

PW was killed without any form skipping and a later interview said you just have to fight AV as it is, survive and win.

But as I see more and more attempts from both the BG forums and in the actual game in person.
I do notice that he know has a pattern and tends to use 3 of his 2 hour abilities much more then the others.
For us its always bloodweapon,hundred fists, and chainspell.
he always does call wyvern on the 2nd SP, then never does it again.
So his pattern on the 3 times we fought him were Bloodweapon,Callwyvern, (we kite the wyverns), Chainspell, hundred fists. Then the pattern repeats, bloodweapon,hundredfists,chainspell.
We usually die on the 2nd or 3rd cycle cause the monster is too much for us and so are the chainspells.
But the fact that he always uses hundredfists and chainspell for alot of people that attempt him is weird. Its not his 2 hrs that kill us, its his attack power, attack speed, and TP moves. He would kill our LS regardless of if he had any 2 hours to begin with or not. We have never seen his 4th cycle of 2 hours to determine if it was indeed the same exact pattern.

The SE video shows.....

1. People using alot of 2 hrs right when the dustcloud animation goes off.
If the 2 hrs could indeed be locked, there maybe there is a 10% chance of it and thats why all the jobs 2 hr. Maybe you need 10 jobs to do it to get a 100% lock in.

If you successfully lock it, it restores your 2 hours?? If so, how come noone has gotten them restored yet then. Besieged and wild card did not exist at the time of that video.

2. Nuking from tier I tier II, tier III, tier IV.
I originally thought this was for MP conservation and hate control at the start of the fight, but you might have to nuke in a number order per each character. Constantly casting water I on watersday caused him to manafont more? Casting water element on him causes him to use water element 2 hours more? (he used Meiko and manafont multiple times if I read correctly)

If that is true, I would avoid fighting him on windsday because of his wind spells and power, watersday because those are his most deadly 2 hrs, lightsday because light nukes are weak.

I would choose iceday because ice spells are strong, lightning days comes after it which is also strong spells, and AV is wind element so should be his weakest on iceday. The rdm spams Dark spells for hate in the video though, the PLD uses flash, and to pull the wyverns they use diaga.
I would assume dark and light spells are exempt from the nuke/day theory.
But nothing makes sense in that video to me, not even why they all used 2 hrs.

I think SE needs to stop making fake videos and show us how AV can die in 1 hour. (assuming your JOL took 1 hr to milk all the regen from pets). I would assume the legit method only takes an hour to defeat and a 1 hour video is not impossible to make. Your video is fake SE. Stop lying to people.

Let me tell you some things about AV that don't come as obvious to you.
1. Nuking element of the day is for one thing only, locking AV's regen, and it works flawlessly I might add.
2. AV doesn't use Call Wyvern more than once for you because you have all the wyverns up... and are kiting them hahaha.
3. AV can be locked, that is 100% mathematical certainty, and the reason for this is because it is impossible to kill without being locked period.

I have documented virtually every aspect of AV there is to know concerning its AI above 60%, and what comes at 59% we all know. When bracelets come out and he will begin using 2hr combinations you will die, it doesn't matter how well you are organized or how well you are geared, it is a simple fact.

My group fights AV straight until it despawns while we are fighting it, we don't wipe over and over so I can tell you that it will continue to 2hr every single 2hr with no appearance of a true pattern, but even if there was a perfect pattern, and it didn't exit this pattern you would still wipe at 59%, 100% of the time and thus it is possible to be locked before that happens. If there is a pattern it is to help you in locking without a huge randomness to the next 2hr it will use, that would be the only reason.

As an added note, I would like to see your interview where they state that all you need to do is fight it and survive. (I wonder what all that video stuffs was for.... hmm)

[Whaleporn]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...g?t=1243886368

[Weeks]

edit: if anyone could simply find out how to lock benediction this would be killable... just not in a way that people would be willing to do often or repeatedly

Does the broken regen stay broken, or does he get his auto-regen back as soon as he goes passive?

[Indalecia]

Imma talk to Alf, see when they gonna try again.

[Kyte]

PW was killed without any form skipping and a later interview said you just have to fight AV as it is, survive and win.

Are you sure it was an interview? Are you sure it wasn't nothing?

[Mojo]

Props to the OP for making the post (as unenlightening as the attempt was, it still interests some of us,) and to those keeping the thread in check.

[Elondir]

Wow, things have changed in a year, PB used to hate Nirvana for "being bad players". I'm going to try to get a few of our LS out there next time they try, we've helped both PB and Nirvana before so we might be able to pick some things up that they're trying.