L4D 2 annouced.

[Lebzile]

Because people have Sandy vagina's

Justified "sandy vaginas".

- 5 new campaigns
- 4 new characters
- 4 new melee weapons: axe, chainsaw, frying pan, and baseball bat.
- New ranged weapons: silenced SMG, new shotgun, new sniper rifle.
- New (heretofore unknown) game mode
- Updated "AI Director 2.0"
- New Infected types (e.g. Charger)
- Missions in full daylight

^not worth calling a second game.

15-20$, np. I'd be willing to pay that much for DLC. Full retail, buying the game a second time for 50-60$? Hell-fucking-no.

The only good thing about L4D2 that actually makes me go "Hell yea" is the anti-molotov/gas can infected.

[Pikarya]

Still no *real* explosive-based weaponry =/

sigh

edit: also lulz @ "new sniper rifle". As if the original was ever utilized short of the last part of dead air.

[Lebzile]

Oh and a welcomed Witch change which is obviously to advanced to put into the first L4D:

The Witch will behave differently during daytime. Instead of sitting, she will stand and wander around, making her much more difficult to crown. She may also turn around randomly.

L4D2 Information Thread - Steam Users' Forums

[Metah]

I'm pretty sure this was all planned out from the beginning. The characters, the story, the sequel, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were 4 Left 4 Dead games, the last game featuring one character who "survived" their game, and the last character slot being filled in with a never before seen character who turns out to be extremely valuable for stopping and possibly reversing the infection. Also, the virus mutates and infects some of the former survivors, meaning you get a Special Infected Francis (Biker for example) who only appears once per campaign or something like that

At least, that's what I'm guessing lol

[thestalkmore]

Why would you guess that lol

[Metah]

Well I mean, storywise they must have had something in terms of a sequel planned from the start, depending on how successful Left 4 Dead was. Considering how they've said they planned out the scenario for some years now (its in the commentary part of the game), I'm pretty sure Left 4 Dead was just a testing grounds for game mechanic and to see how successful it could be. The rest was just a joke :\

[Kerberoz]

And to buy him a bigger monitor for WoW.

http://i43.tinypic.com/epj8yp.jpg

People still play with single-monitor setups? $20 keyboard too, lol.

[Ollieyk]

Highlight of MS's E3 Presentation :/ Doesn't say much. Never got the hype behind the first one.

[Wintermute]

People still play with single-monitor setups? $20 keyboard too, lol.

For real, I can't do shit on a single-monitor setup anymore.

[Metah]

People still play with single-monitor setups? $20 keyboard too, lol.

My keyboard is 5 bucks mo'fucka

Its all I need

[Okan]

My reasons for believing this is DLC (for PC at least):
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I'd say that if this is DLC that Valve will finally make Xbox users pay for DLC though. They can't add achievements while offering it free.

Nope. This will be full retail on both systems unless you count buying and downloading off Steam to be DLC.

Valve will not drive a wedge between their customer base by giving this as "free DLC to PC users" and making Xbox users buy the whole thing for $60. Sorry.

And I'll probably just get it from Gamefly or something. Don't get me wrong, I loved the first game, but I don't see any major innovations in this one to make me buy it. Might pick it up later after prices drop though. Though I'll admit, I really don't buy ANY games these days because $50-$60 is steep and I'm a cheap bastard. I usually buy dated games and at the $30 mark unless the game is going to be really good.

Side note: Anyone notice that in the gameplay screenshot that the heavy black dude is named Philco? Uncle Phil, yo.

[Cjskater]

Nope. This will be full retail on both systems unless you count buying and downloading off Steam to be DLC.

Valve will not drive a wedge between their customer base by giving this as "free DLC to PC users" and making Xbox users buy the whole thing for $60. Sorry.

And I'll probably just get it from Gamefly or something. Don't get me wrong, I loved the first game, but I don't see any major innovations in this one to make me buy it. Might pick it up later after prices drop though. Though I'll admit, I really don't buy ANY games these days because $50-$60 is steep and I'm a cheap bastard. I usually buy dated games and at the $30 mark unless the game is going to be really good.

Side note: Anyone notice that in the gameplay screenshot that the heavy black dude is named Philco? Uncle Phil, yo.

If this isn't DLC I'm not buying it, that's for sure. The price (if it isn't free) is unknown as of now though. Most stores just put it up on their site so they can get preorders. If it is DLC, for the Xbox, the only option is to sell it. There would be so much content for them and no achievements to make them want to keep playing. By creating a "new game" they will already have driven a wedge in their customer base. Their main platform is PC, they will most likely want to promote it so I don't see how Microsoft's shortcomings should be Valve's. This "new game" will severely hurt the "old" one though unless they can play with each other (this is probably a no knowing Microsoft).

The decision to split the game like this is so monumentally stupid that your only rational thought can be "Are they trolling?" They have to be. Not to mention the failed promises from L4D's debut:

Spoiler: show

Gabe: "One of the things that we're doing is we seem to be in a transition between games as a package product and games more of a service. So if you look at Team Fortress 2, one of things that's really helped grow the community is the continuous updates, where we release new maps, new character classes, new unlockables, new weapons. And we tell the stories about the characters, like the meet the sniper, or meet the sandwich. And that ongoing delivery of content really seems to grow the community."

"So each time we've released one of those for Team Fortress 2 we've seen about a 20% increase in the number of people who are playing online. And that number is really important because it determines how many community created maps there are, how many servers are running, and so on. So we'll do the same thing with Left 4 Dead where we'll have the initial release and then we'll release more movies, more characters, more weapons, unlockables, achievements, because that's the way you continue to grow a community over time."

I'll continue to hang onto the thread of hope I'm hanging on. If it is free DLC (for PC), yay, faith restored and hope maintained. If not well... I'm not buying it like I said... probably will think twice about any new products by Valve too.

[Lebzile]

It's confirmed at 49.99$ for the PC version.

GG VALVe.

[Pikarya]

fail

[cthalupa]

More content in it than there was in L4D 1, not sure why it would be DLC.

[Lebzile]

More content in it than there was in L4D 1, not sure why it would be DLC.

Because FattyGabe promised people that bought L4D1 that it would have annual updates of Weapons, Movies, Characters, ect.. In Other words, what this game is giving us for another 50$, is what FattyGabe said we would get for free like with TF2.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...rightpiece.png

"U WNT FREE DLC LIKE WE PROMISED? U HAV 2 PAAYYYYYYYY!!"

[Fallyn]

Because FattyGabe promised people that bought L4D1 that it would have annual updates of Weapons, Movies, Characters, ect.. In Other words, what this game is giving us for another 50$, is what FattyGabe said we would get for free like with TF2.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...rightpiece.png

"U WNT FREE DLC LIKE WE PROMISED? U HAV 2 PAAYYYYYYYY!!"

I'd pay £25 for L4D2, stop whining Leb.

[Kerberoz]

I'm still waiting for the first one to drop below $20 on a steam sale. Played on free weekends and it's fun, but not enough content for $40, let alone $50 for a sequel which is just new maps.

[Lebzile]

@Fallyn

Just out of curiosity, do you have L4D1?

@Kerb

Just wait till L4D2 comes out then, it'll have all the maps and shit L4D1 has according to what some sites are saying.

[BRP]

It is an expansion and all expansions are sequels. Looking at the features it seems to have just about the same, if not little less, content as the original game.