Haste vs TP Store (Not just for SAMS)

[FailureMidgard]

Good enough that we hit 25k+ per hour... all I cared about.

I blur between good and great. Definitely not great but getting perfect gear is tough

Either way.. MNK has potential. But without Usukane I don't think they have a shot in hell.

I'm not saying a mnk sits there and does awful damage. I will party with good mnks, they can pull their weight in a party. But there is no way they can actually beat an equivalently geared/skilled sam.

Probably because you never saw a good mnk, the argument works the other way around too. And lol@ bison steak, pizza only and double march on mmj.

Except, all the math supports the idea that sam or war does more damage.


Oh btw, I'm a 75 mnk with full Usu too.

[pchan]

I'm not saying a mnk sits there and does awful damage. I will party with good mnks, they can pull their weight in a party. But there is no way they can actually beat an equivalently geared/skilled sam.



Except, all the math supports the idea that sam or war does more damage.


Oh btw, I'm a 75 mnk with full Usu too.

You do 4k damage / minute on a salvage boss ? And what are those maths you're talking about ..

[Amastacia]

I forgot that Salvage bosses were the yardstick for damage output potential in FFXI.

Silly me.

Lest we forget that there are 4 of them, which normally don't even need to be killed every run.

And that 99% of FFXI players spend more time killing merit-level-and-under monsters and HNMs. Which are not Salvage bosses.

Edit: By your logic, I posit that /ra RNG is as good as a 2h DD because of Dark Ixion and Odin.

[pchan]

I forgot that Salvage bosses were the yardstick for damage output potential in FFXI.

Silly me.

Lest we forget that there are 4 of them, which normally don't even need to be killed every run.

And that 99% of FFXI players spend more time killing merit-level-and-under monsters and HNMs. Which are not Salvage bosses.

Edit: By your logic, I posit that /ra RNG is as good as a 2h DD because of Dark Ixion and Odin.

Your are an idiot. A salvage boss is comparable to a merit mob with 50,000 HP. If lolibri is a good test for you gear, salvage bosses are.

[Burnsy]

A 4/5 usukane monk rapes a 0/5 usukane monk as far as damage go anytime anywhere capped accuracy or not.

Sadly this isn't always true, and I've proved it against Usu MNKs that are pussies and sub ninja (I myself have none, because salvage groups are gay).... but it should be for what bodies cost

I'll not put out SAM's utility in damn near everything in ffxi now or the value of store tp(for SAM) or haste(for MNK/other1h/DW'in DD).

But at the end of the day, be it lolibri, salvage bosses, or fuckin AV, we're all lolmelee, and basically all the same in the eyes of the mages that keep us alive, and put up with our e-cock swinging and "my epeen is bigger than your epeen" fights.

[Tulun]

I'm not saying a mnk sits there and does awful damage. I will party with good mnks, they can pull their weight in a party. But there is no way they can actually beat an equivalently geared/skilled sam.

I could accept this. Getting a perfectly equal skill/gear people to compare cross job is difficult.
But MNK properly geared will keep up in an exp pt.

Medicore will be attrocious, like most 1 handers...

[Neosutra]

Your are an idiot.

You're.

[FailureMidgard]

You do 4k damage / minute on a salvage boss ? And what are those maths you're talking about ..

Is 4k/minute supposed to be that impressive? If a chariot has 50k HP, SSR chariot has 12.5k per BJ period, takes ~1.5minutes with 2 people to force it to start jacking, meaning they are averaging 4.16k/minute each. I know I parse higher than the other DD on it...so I'll go ahead and say yes, I definitely do. Also, that's stuck using shitty Seigan.

And fuck using that as a meter. You don't want to use colibri? Fine, let's talk about Einherjar.

[Neosutra]

TBH, I dont like eating pizza at mamools. The attack loss is massive and you should be able to time your focus's around repop timers of the THFs and heavy evasive melees. You shouldnt have a problem with acc (even with focus down) on the mage type mobs.

Then again, I typically never merit w/o 2 brds or brd/cor, and 2 other strong melees.

As far as DoT goes, a balls to the wall 100% sam or war will typically pull ahead of my BB full usu mnk... if I sub ninja. If I come /war to anything, say your prayers.

[Yugl]

All this thread has accomplished is proven a fact we all already know. SAM is broken and needs a nerf.

[pchan]

Is 4k/minute supposed to be that impressive? If a chariot has 50k HP, SSR chariot has 12.5k per BJ period, takes ~1.5minutes with 2 people to force it to start jacking, meaning they are averaging 4.16k/minute each. I know I parse higher than the other DD on it...so I'll go ahead and say yes, I definitely do. Also, that's stuck using shitty Seigan.

And fuck using that as a meter. You don't want to use colibri? Fine, let's talk about Einherjar.

How about you prove that you do more than that ;p. You're just the same idiot as Neosutra, you troll and troll, but when asked to backup your claim, noone in the house.

[Neosutra]

How about you prove that you do more than that ;p. You're just the same idiot as Neosutra, you troll and troll, but when asked to backup your claim, noone in the house.

You have no right to call anyone an idiot troll here when 90% of the shit you post is retarded nonsense.

Are you still a brown belt usu mnk? Hopefully you have at least fixed that by now.

20 minutes on SSR floor 4.

Mnks cant counter w/o weapon.

Iota ring.

Complete mis-representation of job capabilities w/o the numbers to back them up, then the audacity to call other people on it?

The list of your stupidity goes on.

Seriously, how do you even take yourself seriously Pchan?

[pchan]

20 minutes on SSR floor 4.

I remember saying 15 and I remember you saying 8 and not proving it. Try again.

Mnks cant counter w/o weapon.

Out of context

Iota ring.

STR rings now cos i <3 pizza.

Complete mis-representation of job capabilities w/o the numbers to back them up, then the audacity to call other people on it?

backup what exactly ?

[Mansin]

Your are an idiot.

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I like how math is plural too. Please god tell me you aren't from the US Pchan.

[Neosutra]

STR rings now cos i <3 pizza.

You melee in str rings...

Dude just wow.

Wasting acc during focus with pizza, and losing a shit ton of attack. Not to mention you arent capped on hit rate (even with pizza) on harder mobs at any camp. Even if you do swap to a focus up (or low evasion mob build), you shouldnt be swapping to str rings, jesus christ.

And nice one at ignoring the brown belt comment. Also, I assume we are only talking about your lolmnk here, and not your lolpup, since your pup isnt going to have the acc to support not using sushi, regardless off the camp.

So painful to see full usu wasted on someone like you.

[pchan]

You melee in str rings...

Dude just wow.

Wasting acc during focus with pizza, and losing a shit ton of attack. Not to mention you arent capped on hit rate (even with pizza) on harder mobs at any camp. Even if you do swap to a focus up (or low evasion mob build), you shouldnt be swapping to str rings, jesus christ.

And nice one at ignoring the brown belt comment. Also, I assume we are only talking about your lolmnk here, and not your lolpup, since your pup isnt going to have the acc to support not using sushi, regardless off the camp.

So painful to see full usu wasted on someone like you.

Someone doesn't know how pizza works or focus even. All you need is 423 accuracy to cap on those pussy mamooljas that are not THF or NIN. Easily done with str rings. Focus for lurkers and skoffins, because pizza+acc rings/ear is enaugh for nin. You cap on all mamoolja including lurkers since if you bard does'nt suck he does madrigal on lurkers. There is still a mob where you don't cap, and it's the one with the least accuracy, i'll you guess which.

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I like how math is plural too. Please god tell me you aren't from the US Pchan.

Hi rmt, still selling cerberus hide for RL money?

[Mansin]

Hi rmt, still selling cerberus hide for RL money?

Cerberus Mantle +1, yes. $550~ this month cause I had a dry streak.
How's meleeing in STR rings going for you?

[Neosutra]

Someone doesn't know how pizza works or focus even. All you need is 423 accuracy to cap on those pussy mamooljas that are not THF or NIN. Easily done with str rings. Focus for lurkers and skoffins, because pizza+acc rings/ear is enaugh for nin. You cap on all mamoolja including lurkers since if you bard does'nt suck he does madrigal on lurkers. There is still a mob where you don't cap, and it's the one with the least accuracy, i'll you guess which.

Or you could reach the 423 acc and have the attack boost from not having to eat pizza, and save focus for THF/NIN mobs so you can keep your march or minuet? If you DO end up being capped on acc (or close), then swap out PPC/AT for faith, Minuet earring for attack, and culc's for Foragers or cerb+1, instead of swapping a 7acc ring slot for 4-5 str (which will do little to nothing to your melee DoT).

Dont be upset that failuremidgard was right, just admit your mistake and go on with your day.

[pchan]

Or you could reach the 423 acc and have the attack boost from not having to eat pizza,

Show me how you get 423 accuracy. I know it's hard to admit to those that paid millions for cuchulain and ancient torques, but pizza is more attack more strength and more accuracy than typcial meat + epeen accuracy gear.

[Jaregue]

idk what all this bitching is about.
but full usu. hades+1 ancient torque cuch dual sniper+1 hollow and tathlum is only 393 acc

not having hades+1 anceint torque or cuch, but instead use destroyers/foragers/pcc. and eat pizza is only 411 acc..
so why use str rings?