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  1. #301
    Strider/Doom/Cyclops
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnsy View Post
    Really? Here's what I said:
    "800-1500 Asurans on any mob in the game VT+"

    Can you Asuran ANY MOB in the game level 78 or above for 800-1500 with no buffs from a BRD and no food.
    That's a pretty useless (and unfair) comparison.

    1) Who is going to be WSing with no buffs and no food? What does this prove?
    2) SAM GKT WS has hyooge advantages over other DD WS without buffs. Your scenario is like an Atonement PLD saying "let's see who does more damage with their WS when Omega is in 4-leg mode!"

  2. #302
    Sea Torques
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    Pchan, is that ring in your gear SS on the last page Augmented, or is it just a regular Ruby ring?

  3. #303
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    This has gotten out of hand.

    The point is that gekko should and will average slightly higher than asurans, and has some nice spikes when /war. Your original statement of asuran being superior to gekko was simply incorrect, move past it.
    No I didn't say that, I said Gekko is not impressive compared to asuran fists ; look I posted an average of 900 and him said he would do 1k so did mdk ; I'm sorry that 900 >1000 is NOT impressive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mansin View Post
    Pchan, is that ring in your gear SS on the last page Augmented, or is it just a regular Ruby ring?
    I'm amazed that a gil seller is interested in augments. Go back not doing good RL money selling HnM drops, get a job or something.

  4. #304
    Sea Torques
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    I actually get $747 a month for disability, why the fuck would I get a job?

    And I was asking because I'd be absolutely amazed if you were TPing in an NQ ruby ring. Ignoring me and calling me what I am really doesn't hurt me, it actually makes it look like you're wearing an NQ ruby ring, and therefore a fool.


    Edit: In the case of you telling me to get a job, you should probably go back to school and learn the language you're attempting to argue in on a forum.

  5. #305
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    No I didn't say that, I said Gekko is not impressive compared to asuran fists ; look I posted an average of 900 and him said he would do 1k so did mdk ; I'm sorry that 900 >1000 is NOT impressive.
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    Ok.. doing more damage consistantly isnt more impressive?

  6. #306
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Ok.. doing more damage consistantly isnt more impressive?
    If it was +50% yes it would be but obviously it's not. Mansin found a new server?

  7. #307
    Sea Torques
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    I've been on Pandemonium in what used to WopaCo now for three months. Have you found anyone (besides your salvage groupies) that actually likes you?

    Fail harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansin View Post
    I've been on Pandemonium in what used to WopaCo now for three months. Have you found anyone (besides your salvage groupies) that actually likes you?

    Fail harder.
    Nice achievement. And what's your latest accomplishement ? Askar head ? Fafnir ? Serket ?

  9. #309
    Ridill
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    You have to be one of the dumbest people I've read. You are on the same page as Urat.

  10. #310
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen View Post
    You have to be one of the dumbest people I've read. You are on the same page as Urat.
    So you stopped begging me and mdkuser for a discount on Ares body, your groups still suck and can't kill a boss ?

  11. #311
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    Oh no, my salvage group killed bhaflau boss just fine. When they all migrated to pande, I kind of lost my group to salvage. Since there are no competent players on quetz, I stopped trying in shout groups after about the 4th fucking time the dds ran up to the goddamn door to fight the gears to weaken the boss. Every first pull "OOPS LINK". Useless.


    I stopped begging you guys after you declined my all of my cock-sucking offers.

  12. #312
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    I wonder how Gekko could do more but show a lower average.

    *thinks hard*

    If you whiff a hit in Asuran, you go 900 > 800.

    If you whiff a hit in Gekko, you go 1000 > 0.

    WOW, AMAZING DISCOVERY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    I wonder how Gekko could do more but show a lower average.

    *thinks hard*

    If you whiff a hit in Asuran, you go 900 > 800.

    If you whiff a hit in Gekko, you go 1000 > 0.

    WOW, AMAZING DISCOVERY!
    Are you saying that accuracy is more detrimentral to Gekko than it is to Asuran fists ?

  14. #314
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Are you saying that accuracy is more detrimentral to Gekko than it is to Asuran fists ?
    I thought it was because of the single hit ACC bonus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    I thought it was because of the single hit ACC bonus?
    Then if anything, it's to the advantage of gekko..

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    Just means there is a higher standard deviation.

    Anyways, what are we arguing over again?

  17. #317
    Sea Torques
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    It doesn't mean anything because with most parsers if you miss the WS entirely it doesn't add it into the average, the only way you will get a wider range is if you DA and miss the first hit on gekko.

    Edit: Wow I never realised just how retarded this conversation had become. Gekko isn't an amazing WS if you've got 1000 attack and cor rolls out the ass, it never has been. WSs like sidewinder and steel cyclone are always going to be able to put about much larger numbers than gekko with enough attack. The impressive thing about gekko is the damage it can do with very low buffs and it can still exceed the average of most other jobs WS with standard merit/salvage buffs.

  18. #318
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    And similar damage outputs on high end mobs... Y/G/K is awesome sauce.

  19. #319
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Then if anything, it's to the advantage of gekko..
    Looking at the way you phrased it, I was assuming you meant gear. That is to say ACC is detrimental in the sense that it could be used for STR pieces, in which case, ACC is more "detrimental" to Gekko.

  20. #320
    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Nice achievement. And what's your latest accomplishement ? Askar head ? Fafnir ? Serket ?
    You're really bad at being condescending.
    One of my accomplishments overall would probably be understanding game mechanics, too bad you can't say the same *care face*. Don't be mad at me because you've excommunicated yourself from endgame (as if there's a such thing on Quetz)

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