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    Dragon shields are ok. I don't really like ultrapro cause I split sleeves way easy with my shuffling.

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    Who wants to trade me some sac lands? Will trade for any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen View Post
    Dragon shields are ok. I don't really like ultrapro cause I split sleeves way easy with my shuffling.
    How do you shuffle them? Might be good to know for my purchase decision...

    Has anyone tried mayday games sleeves? I've used them for FFG games and such with the miniature cards, but never a larger card format, not sure if they hold up as well at the larger sleeve sizes...

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    I shuffle weird. So it's difficult to gauge.

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    Dragonshields are amazing, most durable shit ever, but playmat or bust with those. they get dirt on those fuckers so fast.

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    KMC are my preferred brand, but I'll use other brands here and there. Player's Choice has also been good to me. Haven't really used Dragon Shield much since I had issues with the cut size of them a long time ago, I assume they fixed it though. The problem is that the sleeves were cut really low, just enough to barely fit the card in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko View Post
    KMC are my preferred brand, but I'll use other brands here and there. Player's Choice has also been good to me. Haven't really used Dragon Shield much since I had issues with the cut size of them a long time ago, I assume they fixed it though. The problem is that the sleeves were cut really low, just enough to barely fit the card in.
    Also a fan of the KMC.

    BTW, cracked a single box of Besieged, got every chase minus Thrun. But two Tezz. Schucks.

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    Galvanoth + Knowledge Pool seems like it'd create an infinite loop winning scenario, is there some rule that prevents this?

    Edit: Hell just Knowledge Pool looks like it'd auto-loop...

    Edit2: Nevermind, I see the difference. You get the free hit from Knowledge Pool by casting from your hand, but the cast you make off KP won't proc itself, because it isn't in your hand.

    Unrelated to the above, is it just me or is infect ridiculously overpowered? You only have to get half as much damage on a player, which they can't even counter with healing; and if monsters are blocking they're taking perma -1/-1 for each damage point (so you're either killing it or it's too weak to be effective). And that's not even mentioning proliferate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko View Post
    KMC are my preferred brand, but I'll use other brands here and there. Player's Choice has also been good to me. Haven't really used Dragon Shield much since I had issues with the cut size of them a long time ago, I assume they fixed it though. The problem is that the sleeves were cut really low, just enough to barely fit the card in.
    I like KMC too. I couldn't remember the name though lol. If you want super protection, get the KMC Perfect Fit clear sleeves and double sleeve that shit.

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    Lol, that's awesome. Would love to see that deck in action and the opponent's reaction.

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    My friends and I just started up magic again. I'm thinking of making a sliver deck as my old awesome black deck has been lost. Is a Sliver deck a good idea in this day and age? I hear shit is really different.

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    Well, you can't play in any tournaments with it, but for casuals I guess it would be fun lol.

    Also, getting the Slivers from anywhere other than online might be difficult unless your local shop has old Tempest commonds/uncommons.

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    I'll be going to my local card store tomorrow for a draft so we'll see. It's either Slivers or Spirits. I wanna make a troll hard deck lol. My last black deck was just about amping up a Ornithopter. Was nothing special but I enjoyed the hell out of it. First turn Ornithopter Unholy strength then throw on Kaldra gear, ect. Was really fun lol

    Not really sure what other deck I could make.

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    Just go with the old Dark Ritual > Hypnotic Specter > Island > Unholy Str + Unstable Mutation!!!!

    And since you play without rules, 4 Brainstorms - why not!

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    Just watch out for people who play Plague Sliver just to troll your deck. lol

    Unrelated to the above, is it just me or is infect ridiculously overpowered? You only have to get half as much damage on a player, which they can't even counter with healing; and if monsters are blocking they're taking perma -1/-1 for each damage point (so you're either killing it or it's too weak to be effective). And that's not even mentioning proliferate.
    Yea, it's kinda ridiculous now that you don't have Leeches (Arabian Nights) to remove poison counters.

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    Except that infect isn't ridiculous because it is slower, all infect creatures cost at least 1 more mana. And it isn't any more dangerous than a regular aggro deck. In a competitive environment most good aggro decks pull of turn 4 and 5 kills pretty easy and infect is no different.

    In a kitchen table casual environment yeah infect can be amazing but no one plays lifegain cards in tournaments anyway so infect isn't all that great.

    Not a single infect deck made it to the top 8 at the Paris pro tour, it was all Caw-go/blade decks and a few U/B control decks.

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    Infect decks are awful in standard. There are too many single cards (spot or mass removal) that just own it and they have no cantrip to speak of.

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    I'mma make a Kithkin deck, a Sliver deck, and a Myr deck. The Sliver won't be type but the Kithkin and Myr will be. I'm also gonna make a random black and a random green deck.

    Fucking hell, i forgot what a money sink this shit was lol

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    Holy fuck Infect decks are awesome. I bought a Box of besieged and made one. Shit is so cash. This is my new favorite deck.

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