Magic: The Gathering

[Myrrh_Quetz]

What do you guys think of my Infect deck? Any suggestions?

4 Phyrexian Crusaders
4 Hand of the Praetors
4 Plague Stingers
3 Plague Myr
3 Putrefex
3 Phyrexian Vatmother
2 Necropedes
2 Corpse Curs
2 Ichorclaw Myr
1 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

2 Doomblades
2 Go for the throats
2 Adventuring gear
2 Black Sun Zenith
2 Sphere of the suns
2 Contagion Clasps
2 Tumble Magnets
1 Marsh Flats(Want 4 total)
1 Contagion Engine

7 Forest
9 Swamps

It looks really good to me but I'm curious as to what you guys think.

[Tomiko]

I assume this is for Standard, so I won't be a ton of help. A couple suggestions though:

You'll want Verdant Catacombs, not Marsh Flats.

Mimic Vat would be good with Putrefax.

I would cut the Plague Myrs for more lands. Pretty sure Day of Judgment is commonly played, so I wouldn't count on those for mana. And 21 lands seems to be low for your mana curve. Inkmoth Nexus would be the best replacement.

Include a way to deal with Sword of Feast and Famine since it makes your deck cry.

I'd probably cut 2 Necropedes, 2 Corpse Curs & 2 Ichorclaw Myr and include pump effects like Vampire's Bite and Vines of Vastwood.

[Weltall]

You have way too many 2 Drops to warrant Sphere of the Suns, so drop that first.

You will want 4 Nature's Claim in your SB.

I am confused about the Marsh Flats; you want 4 Verdant Catacombs. Also, you want Tectonic Edge.

Black Sun Zenith is awful in your deck; you are much better off with more spot removal. I would use Disfigure. If you are worried about Kudoltha Red, use Ratchet Bomb for 0 instead of Black Zenith.

Edit - Just noticed you don't have enough lands.

[zoobernut]

black/green infect decks have been doing terrible at my FNM I would just go monoblack if I were you. The main reason to add green in is for massive boost spells which you do not have. If you really want to stick with green/black then get groundswell, vines of the vastwood, and giant growths in there. Otherwise you are going to get stomped by any sort of weenie swarmer deck like quest or kred both of which are very popular right now.

If the deck is for casual then I would just playtest it with friends and if it does good then great if not then adjust it a little bit.

I agree with weltall too on the BSZ those are not good in a deck where you are running so many creatures. Chances are it is going to hurt you more than your opponent. Replace them with either boost spells or more spot removal.

Really infect at first was about speed and such but all infect creatures cost more than their counterparts with the same power/toughness so that slows down your deck then on top of that black/green has very inconsistent mana base. You are going to completely win some games by turn 4 and stomp your opponent and then other games you will get completely stomped. The deck just plays inconsistently.

Now more and more the infect decks I am seeing are trying to run more removal and control spells and better mid to late game creatures so they have better staying power. The match-up against quest, caw-go, and kred are still difficult for infect but I think that strategy is working a little bit better than the all in for the first 4 turns strategy.

[Myrrh_Quetz]

Thanks for the tips. I'm still trying to remember what works best with what.

[Nama]

4 Phyrexian Crusaders
4 Plague Stingers
4 Plague Myr
3 Viridian Corrupter ( For swords)
4 Phyrexian Vatmother
3 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

2 Doomblade
4 Go for the throat
1 Duress
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Contagion Clasp

4 Inkmoth Nexus
4 Verdent catacombs
7 Forest
9 Swamps

A quick look over but this is what i would run if I played G/B infect, however the only green card left is Corrupter. Nexus is a big boost as man-lands can be hard to deal with and surviving board wipes is a huge issue for aggro decks, Black Sun, Day of Judgement, Slagstorm and Pyroclasm all see play. Inquistion is also a good addition as it wreaks an opponents early game where you can where you usually get most your poison through. Afterwards spot removal Nexus, proliferated clasp or hasted Skittles will be your finishers.
After Besieged with vatmothers and nexus I think Mono black is a better infect deck then G/B tho I still like G/B infect for sealed and drafts. At our Besieged Gameday a Mono Black infect did surprisingly well and placed 3rd only behind U/B control and Tezzeret control. If you still wanna play Green in there I would find a way to get Canopy cover and vines of vastwood in there.


Also
http://media.wizards.com/images/magi...11zex6s0i1.jpg

[Myrrh_Quetz]

I was looking around at some cards and sort of thought of a neat little turn 4 win with cheap infect cards.

Okay, you need 2 forests, 1 Plague stinger, 1 Vines of Vastwood, 1 Assault strobe(I'm sure there is a better card that gives double strike for a Black infect deck but I'm tired and this is the first one I came across. Anyone know of any others?), 1 Sphere of the suns, 2 swamps

Turn 1 > Forest
Turn 2 > Swamp > Sphere of the Suns
Turn 3 > Forest > Plague Stinger
Turn 4 > Swamp > Assault Strobe(Tap Sphere of the suns for Red) > Vines of Vastwood(pay the kicker) > Attack

That's 10 poison counters right there.

I think it's a nice cheap alternative till I can get my Inkmoths an Catacombs. What do you guys think?

[Tonko]

Assuming no blocker, no removal to kill the stinger, no counters, 2 of each land with 4 other specific cards.
I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Nama]

If you wanna speed infect loading out Unholy Might and Piston Sledges will be more consistent then splashing Red and hoping for a great opening hand.

[Linsivi]

Artifact Infect + Tezzeret or bust.

[Solidmoose]

Maindeck:

Artifacts
4 Contagion Clasp
4 Tumble Magnet

Artifact Creatures
4 Necropede

Creatures
4 Phyrexian Crusader

Instants
1 Deprive
1 Into the Roil
4 Mana Leak


Legendary Creatures
2 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

Planeswalkers
2 Jace Beleren

Sorceries
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Preordain

Basic Lands
4 Island
6 Swamp

Lands
4 Creeping Tar Pit
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
4 Inkmoth Nexus
Sideboard:

3 Phyrexian Vatmother
3 Disfigure
2 Doom Blade
2 Flashfreeze
1 Go for the Throat
1 Into the Roil
1 Jace Beleren
2 Duress

this was a U/B Infect Deck thats placed 3rd or 4th in the most recent SCG Open in L.A. Yesterday. It's a Brian Kibler list and the more I look at it the dirtier this deck looks.

[Ragnus]

Really good deck but I would have thought that a good thing to add was a way to give creeping tar pit a way to gain infect. You're right though the deck looks better the more I look at it.

[Nama]

Tainted Strike be a nice surprise on a creeping tar pit or an artifact tezzeret just made a dude but question is what would you really want to drop for it.

[zoobernut]

Creeping Tarpit is not in there to do infect damage and Tainted strike would be a wasted/dead card in that deck. Creeping Tarpit is specifically in there to take care of Planeswalkers in my opinion.

[Solidmoose]

Creeping Tarpit is not in there to do infect damage and Tainted strike would be a wasted/dead card in that deck. Creeping Tarpit is specifically in there to take care of Planeswalkers in my opinion.

pretty much this. its reach for Walkers when every other avenue has failed. Jace1 serves a dual purpose as your draw engine with proliferate, but also as a killcon for JTMS. most of the other disruption is aimed at Gideon, because that card destroys this deck.

[DrRuler]

If you want to run aggro infect I suggest a decklist similar to this:
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=779508

that is Andrea Matiacic's infect deck from Pro Tour Paris a month ago, it looks jank as shit at first glance, but it's actually a clever all in aggro deck that is incredibly hard for a control deck to deal with, there are several turn 3-4 kills in that deck and upon playtesting I found they come up rather often.

That being said I'm still not a big fan of aggro infect and I prefer the following lists:
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=804066
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=805596
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=804084

My U/B Tezz-Infect has already swept FNM twice, buying me some lotus cobras and a hero of oxid ridge with the winnings, that deck is worth every penny. Sadly, people will start changing how they play against me, as the FNM size is small (10-20~ people) so I'll have to switch off to a new deck this week or next to keep things fresh...

This deck: http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=804058 is close to one I've been testing wit ha friend lately and I'm loving it as a unique control deck if anyone wants to try out a new deck but can't think of anything worth playing.

[zoobernut]

I am currently building a U/B Tezz-Infect deck to bring to my FNM but I am missing the key cards right now, I need 4 Jace Beleren, 1 more Tezz (Going to run 2), and at least 2 Creeping Tarpits, and a nice to have but not necessary would be 4 Tech Edge.

In the meantime I think I will run either my new KRed deck or my monoblack midrange control deck at the next FNM I head to.

Oh yeah in case anyone missed the announcement:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...ily/arcana/677

[Ragnus]

Yea it hit me that it wasn't necessary when I was in the shower yesterday. Realized that Contagion Clasp was a consistent source of Proliferate to increase Poison.

[oldoldman]

Now this is a real balls of steel infect deck.

http://www.channelfireball.com/artic...-twice-bitten/

[zoobernut]

It is a legacy infect deck too, worth mentioning.