Magic: The Gathering

[Weltall]

That vampire will never see play unless:

1. Post rotation - this is a no brainer
2. JTMS isn't reprinted
3. Current vampires are reprinted in M12 too. Hexmage / Gatekeeper are the 2 it needs, or the deck doesn't exist to begin with.

[Nama]

Titans in my M12?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attac...2&d=1307553142
From one the learn to play inserts of M12 tutorial decks. Could hope they wont reprint them all but duels has this and frost/grave as promos so they probably all back. Good and bad I guess I still need more titan cards and this will bring down the price but was hoping for more new cards in M12 if whole cycle is back that 9 mythics being reprinted from M11. Poor praetors~

[miokomioko]

http://s3.gatheringmagic.com/images/...n_catapult.jpg

Ha.


http://s3.gatheringmagic.com/images/...MDR/animar.jpg

I'd like it if it weren't for the colors... and for how easily red could kill it early on, and how blue could bounce it and wipe it clean

[Nama]

Oh hay whats this?

Political Puppets

Spoiler: show

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...calpuppets.jpg

Heavenly Inferno

Spoiler: show

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...nlyinferno.jpg

Devour for Power

Spoiler: show

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...urforpower.jpg

[Tomiko]

These decklists actually look pretty good.

[Nama]

Full Commander deck listshttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=329854
Political Puppets is about building defense and giving your opponents your stuff very group hug deck. Devour for power is about filling up your graveyard, dredge will work well in here. Heavenly Inferno is about Angels, Dragons and Demons, big beaters beating face. Counter Punch is token swarm deck. Mirror Mastery is about copying big creatures and destruction spells with its main commander Riku of Two Reflections.

Notable useful/expensive reprints besides wedge dragons, sol ring, lightning greaves
Mirror Mastery - Garruk Wildspeaker, Avatar of Fury, Simic Sky Swallower, Savage Twister, Brainstorm
Devour for Power - Avatar of Woe, Mortivore, Oblivion Stone, Grave pact, Fact or Fiction, Solemn Simulacrum
Heavenly Inferno - Mother of Runes, Angel of Despair, Akroma Angel of Fury, Akroma's Vengeance, Path to Exile
Political Puppets - Howling Mine, Oblation, Brainstorm, Dominus of Fealty, Windborn Muse
Counter Punch - Attrition, Skullclamp, Awakening Zone, Aura shards

[miokomioko]

http://media.wizards.com/images/magi...ilhsydhfdf.jpg
I like the idea of this, especially getting it cheap/free and blinking it.

http://media.wizards.com/images/magi...7b5zuyd_en.jpg
obviously awesome for the format

http://media.wizards.com/images/magi...sssdsffgnn.jpg
semi-interesting black/blue defense...

[Myrrh_Quetz]

I'm tempted to buy 4 of each so I can have a nice playset of everything lol

[Nama]

I'm buying at least 2 probably will get all 5 I can see these selling out for sure. What you get for 30$ is crazy Sol ring/lightning greaves plus the commanders are worth 30$ alone not to mention everything else you get.
Lets take a look at what you get out of Devour for power. Got 7$ Solemn Simulacrum, $4.50 Avatar of Woe, $4 Oblivion stone, $20 Sol ring, $6 Lightning Greaves, $3 Fact or Fiction, $5 Living Death, $2 Mortivore, $4 Eternal Witness, $5 Grave pact. Out of 10 reprints get $60.50 worth of cards obviously the price will drop a bit on these since they in the decks but god damn this is probally the best value product WoTC has ever put out.
Also note that online dealers are already boosting the price of these decks few are already up to $40.

[Diamicles]

Aren't Sol Ring and fact or fiction on the 'no reprint' reserve list? They used to be at least, but I haven't played in a few years. Looks too good to be true for pre-con decks!

edit: looks like they aren't on the reserve list! but still, looks too good to be true. past and present format staples like brainstorm, fact or fiction, eternal witness, oblivion stone, windfall, buried alive, solemn simulacrum, path to exile, terminate, mortify, flametounge kavu, windborn muse, oblation, propaganda, etc....you could build some really nice decks if you had playsets of that stuff.

[Myrrh_Quetz]

I can't wait for the Commander Release Party the store here is having. Shits gonna be fun.

[miokomioko]

I should have sold my overabundance of old Sol Rings before From the Vault: Relics and Commander came around. ;/

[Tomiko]

Also note that online dealers are already boosting the price of these decks few are already up to $40.

Unless you want them right away, It's likely best to wait until Target/Wal-Mart/Etc get them since they sell them at retail. I can understand price increases on stuff like FtV sets since those are limited, but its retarded to see stores jack prices up on widely printed things like this.

Really wish WotC would do something about that.

[miokomioko]

Yeah, go anywhere that's not run by people who know what the cards' values actually are. It's your best bet for anything that's not a basic booster pack... because those are generally overpriced by like 33% when it comes to retail chains.

[Nama]

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attac...1&d=1307823750
Best new card in M12?

Swiftfoot Boots 2 colorless
Artifact, Uncommon
Equip creature gets haste and hexproof
Equip 1 colorless

[Tomiko]

Fixed Lightning Greaves. At worst it'll be used in Commander.

Manalith looks like a worse Darksteel Ingot. Another Commander card at least.

[zoobernut]

Went to my local card shop today and made some great trades. Got rid of a bunch of cards I wasn't using and didn't really need and ended up getting most of the cards I need to finish my blue/white deck. Only need 1 sword of feast and famine and one glacial fortress. I also picked up one War of Attrition event deck to finish off my Stoneforge playset. I like good trade days.

No one wanted my foil Karn though... No one would even look at Karn.

[miokomioko]

Here's all of the new cards found in the M12 sample deck lists.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...ily/arcana/731

And the Giant Growth replacement:http://media.wizards.com/images/magi...cfsmqvp_en.jpg

[Tomiko]

Went to my local card shop today and made some great trades. Got rid of a bunch of cards I wasn't using and didn't really need and ended up getting most of the cards I need to finish my blue/white deck. Only need 1 sword of feast and famine and one glacial fortress. I also picked up one War of Attrition event deck to finish off my Stoneforge playset. I like good trade days.

No one wanted my foil Karn though... No one would even look at Karn.

I have a friend that's looking for a Foil Karn. What are you looking to get for it? I have an extra Sword of Feast and Famine I can trade off towards it, don't think I have an extra Fortress though.

[zoobernut]

Well foil Karn has been going for around $50-$60 so I was hoping to get around there worth of cards. But I am in Reno, NV so I am not sure how we would conduct a trade long distance. I really would like to get a regular Karn because I am using it in my commander deck, and I am also looking to try to get a phyrexian obliterator to finish my mbc deck and the sword of course but I think I would have to throw in something else with the Karn too.