Magic: The Gathering

[Tomiko]

We could just do a trade through the mail if we can figure out something. I don't mind sending first either since you've been here long enough. I'll see if I can find a regular Karn and an Obliterator this week and let you know.


DotP 2012 is out now on PS3 (tomorrow on 360 and Steam). There's also a Demo version if you're not sure if you'll like it or not.

Edit: Played it the past 4 hours, its much better this time. Deck customization is how it should have been in the first place and all the decks are actually decent. Jace's deck is Tribal Illusions. Haven't seen the Lord yet, but I'm sure he's in the advanced version.

Finished Campaign and Gideon was a bitch. Took me 6+ tries to beat him, I lost even when I was at 12 mana on turn 5. Karn went down in like 5-6 turns since I had Kozilek and Mind Controlled his Darksteel Colossus.

Archenemy is the biggest thing about the game (aside from actually being able to customize decks)imo. I'm having quite a bit of fun working on that campaign. You can play it co-op or choose your teammates' decks. I'm going to try out being the Archenemy tomorrow if I'm able to.

[Anakron]

I just got DotP 2012 as well, and would love to play some of you guys, whether standard or Archenemy. My Steam ID is anakronzero

[Nama]

Archenemy can be fun but its so swingy sometimes reminds me why no one plays paper archenemy. Had npc Garruk kill everyone turn 5 last night he kept getting the makes tokens scheme then overrun. Easiest way to get through archenemy campaign is to just trio jace decks since krokian mist can get huge quick. If anyone wants to play on brobox my tag is IdleManbot.

[Cantih]

I wish they had added Planechase to MTGO

[Tomiko]

The last 2 Archenemy Challenges (Medium & Hard) are stupid. I had to look them up on GameFaqs because it was pissing me off.

Medium:

Spoiler: show

I had the right plays, but because of the stupid way it taps your lands I kept failing. You HAVE to play the spells in a certain order.

Hard:

Spoiler: show

This one is entirely based on something that would never work on a competent player. Unless I missed something, there was no reason for the Archenemy not to block.

Also, stores selling Commander decks at more than retail is stupid. I'm just going to wait til the hype dies down to get them and use my current ones in the meantime.

[miokomioko]

I guarantee they'll have them at your nearest Target at MSRP about 4~5 days after release. They have carried all of the Duel Decks, Premium Decks, Planechase, etc. in the past. They just never carry From the Vault from my experience.

[zoobernut]

The commander decks are super fun to play. All of my buddies picked them up and just for fun even though we have tons of other commander decks we played them as-is against each other and it was great. I had counterpunch and kept pumping out tolken creatures and exiling creatures from others graveyards. The decks were really balanced against each other. My buddy ended up just barely winning with the Political Puppets deck.


Tomiko I sent you a pm check it out.

[Purrrfect]

Can the new DotP play multiplayer cross-system? I played the demo last night on ps3 and really liked it (hated the green deck though, Koth would always beat my face in on it). I kinda wanted to get it on ps3 so I have a little more reason to actually use my ps3. The archenemy format was really cool (never seen anything other than normal types like 15 years ago...), only beat the demo one cuz he kept getting self/others schemes and I was the only player left lol.

[Marajade]

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...ly/feature/148

Jace, The Mind Sculptor and Stoneforge Mystic banned.

When a card warps the meta to an extent that it becomes the meta, its time to go away.


Also, commander decks are awesome.

[zoobernut]

I have to say that I am glad that JTMS is banned but I am really disappointed that the banned stoneforge mystic. I think it is a cop out and rather weak. Yes it is a good card but it is just a creature. One of the reasons that JTMS is so powerful was because as a planeswalker it is harder to deal with. Creatures on the other hand are much easier to deal with and in decks that I have played stoneforge by itself hasn't been difficult to deal with.

I guess I am just bitter because I did buy war of attrition deck wanting the stoneforges and no matter how they cut it I do feel cheated that they banned the card so quickly after releasing that deck.

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Cawblade is a big part of Stoneforge getting the boot. Jace has been asking for it since he got printed. However the WoA deck is legal to use in T2, but only with the decklist given. Expect Valakut Titan and ExarchTwin to become The Deck.


Be bitter all you want, but when you have 80% Cawblade at a PTQ then something needs fixing. I know Cawblade has done a good job of shitting up the local FNM and driving away the casuals. Be glad you didn't buy a playset of Jace.

[DrRuler]

Expect Valakut Titan and ExarchTwin to become The Deck.

Kibler's Tezz Aggro list has a good matchup against both decks, as does Vamps. Worth noting that Soul Sisters/Suture Sisters doesn't lose all that much from Stoneforge either, it's a loss to be sure, but the deck still has outs against both decks. Honestly this format is exciting me a lot now.

Run down of decks with a chance to see top 8's off the top of my head:
Valakut
Splinter Twin
UB Metalcraft (Tezz Aggro)
Tezz-infect (UB Tezz Control)
Tempered Steel (fuck you, it isn't call "Hawkward" that name is stupid)
Vampires
RDW
Puresteel Weenie (the block constructed build with some minor changes)
Soul Sisters
Birthing Pod

10 completely different decks, those are just decks that have already proven to be good in the past. Add in decks that DID NOT work while Jace was sitting in play like uB Lich-Obliterator Tezz, Mono Red Control, and Mono Black Control. Wurmcoil is good again, Obliterator might end up playable (maybe...)

TL;DR: It's not going to be all Valakut and Splinter Twin decks, but at FNM where you have a bunch of high schoolers who can't play magic, they will default to these decks until they bandwagon onto another one after it top 8's.

[Kyo]

Magic 2012 really should have deck customization, I would love some over run's in the forest protector deck, or some search cards to get the legendary creature out with activated over run.

[Myrrh_Quetz]

Oh man, JTMS being banned has brought such a big smile to my face.

[Nama]

Valakut gonna be back on the rise but I'm happy to be rid of cawblade and Jace. I'm sad price of my swords have all dropped (Feast and Famine already 15$) but maybe I can finally get a Jace or two to mess around with or stick in an EDH deck. I got a Vamps deck ready but Birthing Pod deck seems interesting to me and fun to play with plus wont rotate anytime soon.

[Olo401]

Gonna pick up a copy of DotP game later.. sounds like it's a blast. I could use some nostalgia too since I haven't actively played since Mirrodin block.

[Weltall]

Valakut will be an awful choice because it forfeits to Splinter Twin for free.

[Weltall]

I will buy DOTP promo codes for $5 through paypal. Message me.

[avelle]

I saw someone mention they bought the Magic game for Steam. Are people liking it? Is it relatively easy to get into as someone who has extremely limited experience playing Magic? I haven't played since I was a kid (in the 90s) and even then I only played with hand me down cards from friends. I was too busy blowing money on video games to worry about cards.

[DrRuler]

I saw someone mention they bought the Magic game for Steam. Are people liking it? Is it relatively easy to get into as someone who has extremely limited experience playing Magic? I haven't played since I was a kid (in the 90s) and even then I only played with hand me down cards from friends. I was too busy blowing money on video games to worry about cards.

That makes you the target audience of the game, it's meant to be friendly to new players that will enjoy casual play, it's basically attempting to be a gateway drug. I recommend it if you're interested in magic but either can't remember the rules or never learned them, as it forces the rules and I've been told it had a solid introduction by my friend, but I just joined him for some archenemy when I went over to try it out.