Magic: The Gathering

[Tomiko]

As for M12 decided against getting a box theres 50 cards left to be spoiled and theres still nothing I'm really excited this set it pretty much random Commander cards.

Main thing I'm excited about so far is the "____ of Empires" cycle since it looks like the art for Innistrad will be great. Otherwise, yeah, lots of chaff in this set.

[Groovebox]

So I bought a new account pack for Magic Online, and after having a blast for about three hours... I spent about 30 dollars on some boosters and other stuff lol. I've been playing it a ton the past few nights. It's great for learning the game and I'm getting used to a lot of different cards. I feel like everyone I play against has a fucking black/red/green deck...

The amount of cards available is so intimidating. I'll probably stick to Duels of the Planeswalkers decks for now. I don't know much about, and have never played the commander format. It sounds bad-ass though.

[miokomioko]

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Some kind of weird opponent scry gifts ungiven effect thingie.

I'm so tired of these 9-million mana casting cost spoilers.


and this guy is back

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[miokomioko]

Aaaand:

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A little bit underwhelming, but it's only a 4-drop and I'm a fan of that [-2] Fork ability.


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I like it. Combos very well with the Pacts cycle as already stated.


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[oldoldman]

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Some kind of weird opponent scry gifts ungiven effect thingie.

You must have missed Invasion block

[oldoldman]

Oh and I can't imagine Sundial of the infinite doing.... anything.

Mono red PW will be a deck since it has 4 planeswalkers right now, technically 5. Turn 3 Koth Turn 4 Chandra -2 and duplicate tezzerets gambit... you get the picture.

[miokomioko]

You must have missed Invasion block

Yup, I missed a lot of stuff. Pretty much everything between Ice Age/Homelands and Morningtide/Shadowmoor.

The sundial... it's a stretch and anyone can see it coming, but it's protection from just about anything happening on your turn. Wiping the stack can be pretty powerful... I think. Also, it pretty much turns any "your next upkeep" card drawbacks into "skip your next turn"

Realistically, it's not going to see play outside of casual combo crap, like what was mentioned in the article about forked pacts.

Actually, I think you can use it to negate the 2nd part of something that says "draw # cards, then, discard # cards" maybe?

[Diamicles]

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Some kind of weird opponent scry FACT OR FICTION effect thingie.

I'm so tired of these 9-million mana casting cost spoilers.


and this guy is back

ftfy, and HELLO UW CONTROL, if I was going to build a standard deck, that would probably be it from the looks of things

also, on the thought of buying a box of M12, in my experience, unless there is a chase rare (well, mythics now) it's usually better to buy singles if you're looking for that stuff. Remember when Baneslayer first came out? They were like $60/each, it was better sense money wise to keep buying boxes till you got enough trade stock or got a playset

[Nama]

Actually, I think you can use it to negate the 2nd part of something that says "draw # cards, then, discard # cards" maybe?

Won't work since the whole spell needs to resolve for any of it to kick in. Sundial still gonna be pretty awesome protection in Limited although.
As for buying boxes I think its smart to preorder a box of any set with more then one planeswalker. Planeswalkers are always so overprized when they first release you can get back most the value of the box if you crack even one and trade it immediately. Karn was $40 for decent while and there was a couple weeks where Tezzeret was $60, I cracked 2 tezz in my besieged box and turned them into another box an a half. Obviously luck plays a huge part in this so its better to get boxes of big sets with more then one planeswalker if your just looking to flip cards. New emo Jace is already a $40 preorder so can expect similar for Chandra and Garruk.

[Weltall]

That Jace' Ingenuity pic is about a month old. There was a thread that spoiled a bunch of upcoming promo cards for the rest of the year; I'll look for it. The artwork is amazing on that.

I don't think the Chandra is that good, but better than most of what we have seen from M12.

Solemn might see some play if the next set doesn't have dual lands.

Sphinx is obviously good if you cast it, but its much worse than Consecrated Sphinx (sp?), whcih costs less mana.

[Olo401]

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Mmmm.. Fact or Fiction on a beatstick! I could see this going into some kind of Legacy or Vintage recusion deck.

[Weltall]

Possibly, but if you are recurring, wouldn't you rather just have Blightsteel/Emrakul/Iona/Grixas?

I'd rather just win immediately than draw some extra cards lol.

[Diamicles]

Possibly, but if you are recurring, wouldn't you rather just have Blightsteel/Emrakul/Iona/Grixas?

I'd rather just win immediately than draw some extra cards lol.

agreed

the new sphinx is the classic definition of a control deck creature:
- it has to be dealt with immediately
- it makes your opponent make a decision, possibly forcing a misplay
- it gives you some kind of card advantage

[Weltall]

Consecrated Sphinx is just so much better IMO, but to each his own.

[Diamicles]

Consecrated Sphinx is just so much better IMO, but to each his own.

not disagreeing, since consecrated gives better card advantage and comes down sooner, just pointing out that it's not really a reanimation target creature that can win a game on its own.

[Tomiko]

Realistically, it's not going to see play outside of casual combo crap, like what was mentioned in the article about forked pacts.

I could see it being played in Legacy. It's an answer to the Hive Mind deck that is somewhat popular. Stax decks can use it (good versions, not the Proliferate crap they listed). Plus there's the casual potential like Isochron Scepter with Final Fortune imprinted.

Won't work since the whole spell needs to resolve for any of it to kick in. Sundial still gonna be pretty awesome protection in Limited although.
As for buying boxes I think its smart to preorder a box of any set with more then one planeswalker. Planeswalkers are always so overprized when they first release you can get back most the value of the box if you crack even one and trade it immediately. Karn was $40 for decent while and there was a couple weeks where Tezzeret was $60, I cracked 2 tezz in my besieged box and turned them into another box an a half. Obviously luck plays a huge part in this so its better to get boxes of big sets with more then one planeswalker if your just looking to flip cards. New emo Jace is already a $40 preorder so can expect similar for Chandra and Garruk.

For M12, I would probably advise against it unless you're planning on getting rid of the chase cards right away. Even then you might not even break even since there's lots of crap in the set. Most of the good cards are reprints, so they won't get too expensive.

Karn was $40 for a while, but that was mainly the preorder price. Once he was actually out he crashed hard in that first month. Jace will likely do the same and Chandra will probably stay in Koth's range since she does only cost 4 now and her 2nd ability has good potential.

[Nama]

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meh Monoblack control but rather play corrupt. Guess if you splash red for new Chandra and double it you can one shot people :/

Its a shame but everything in this set is overcosted I would be loving most these cards if they just cost 1 mana less. Wish WoTC stop making so much crap with 7+ mana costs.

[Weltall]

The problem is....there are better cards that cost 6 mana than everything that costs 7-8 LOL. Bunch of worthless shit in this set...

[miokomioko]

I am assuming that M12 is going to reprint Sanguine Bond, and Sorin's Vengeance was probably built specifically to introduce new players to obvious combos where they will go "omfg 2-card game-winning combo" and get really excited to build a sloppy deck around it. ...And it would be significant if the mana costs weren't through the roof and if mono black had any realistic way to significantly accelerate without a reprint of Dark Ritual/Burnt Offering/Culling the Weak/Witch Engine. Not to mention a way to avoid your 7-fucking-mana sorcery getting countered.

It looks like there's a vertical mono-black cycle of these life-drain cards in this set now... for 1, 2, 10, and X damage/life.

You have to keep in mind that core sets have multiple reasons for existing and one of those reasons is to be a starting point for new players to get familiar with the game. Big mana costs with big effects always impress new players. More flavor than function because that appeals way more to them than complex mechanics... which definitely makes casual playing much much more fun, if you ask me.

[Marcicus]

I'm starting Magic as well, and some friends have recommended me into playing Tempered Steel. I did some research and I see lots of varying builds...anyone have a build they'd like to share?