Magic: The Gathering

[Tricen]

Or I play lands and they die. I still have harrow, expedition, cultivate and raging ravine as win cons.

Do you play on MWS or anything? I'd like to playtest Ascension and Valakut against other competitive decks

[SubzeroDiabolos]

I do Tric -__-

[Weltall]

He said "competitive" decks, good sir.

No, I don't play on MWS, and on MOTO I only have random cards from draft testing.

I just still don't see how you get to Valakut faster than U/B gets to Tec Edge with all the draw U/B offers. For every 1 Valakut you see, they should see 2 tec edge.

[Linsivi]

Ricochet trap stops memoricide and random things that would be annoying. I have won with avengers and titans memoriceded.

So, you kept Ricochet Trap mana up, meaning you did nothing for a turn, against U/B? Sounds like a good way to lose.

[Weltall]

The only 2 single games I legitly lost last weekend with U/B:

1. Lewis Laskin - Game 1 - He had 2 Abyssal Persecutor out on my, which I did not expect at all.

2. Against Boros - I played a first turn Elixer (which is as close to a turn 1 win as you can get right now) so I thought I had it in the bag. I tapped out turn 3 to play little Jace knownig he wouldn't attack it. I had Flashfreeze + Mana Leak in hand, so no way I lose unless I tap out here.

He hit me for 19 damage on his turn 3. Awesome.....learned quickly and destroyed him in game 3.

[Tricen]

So, you kept Ricochet Trap mana up, meaning you did nothing for a turn, against U/B? Sounds like a good way to lose.

With preordain being played, you might get it off for R. You are skipping 1 turn for a chance to not get fucked over, seems like a good deal to me.

[Weltall]

Turn 4 Memoricide ...there is no preordain being played lol.

Or turn 3 with Chalice being played on turn 2.

[Tricen]

So I hardcast it then, I am the ramp deck, I should have 4 mana by then.

[SubzeroDiabolos]

Nigger please.

I'll give you a little, unimportant fact about MWS. You do NOT need to own the physical card to play it. Nope.

You take everything I say, take it out of context and think you get it right. You are now as smart as a pile of shit can be.

[Weltall]

I know you don't need the card to build a deck on MWS; this point is irrelevant. You are not intelligent enough to play a good deck well.

[oldoldman]

How does UB answer a wurmcoil engine on the table?

[gaimear]

Doom Blade?

[oldoldman]

Have you read wurmcoil engine?

[Weltall]

How does UB answer a wurmcoil engine on the table?

Well, for one, I ran Wurmcoil Engine in my U/B deck lol.

Second, Frost Titan taps it down very easily?????

People...come on

[oldoldman]

Ok, so assuming that you played first, turn 4 you memoricide for primeval titans, Turn 4 or even 5 eldrazi green guy plays wurmcoil engine, you tap it down with frost titan, they all is dust and then you do what? I understand that you like the deck but quit pretending like it's unbeatable. It's depressing me.

[Weltall]

I don't get it still >_>

You counter the Wurmcoil Engine, bounce it with Jace, play a Jace and bounce it, you have your own Wurmcoil out, or you counter the All is Dust >_>

What are you missing here?

Edit - Bounce with Into the Roil, draw a card, and then counter it >_>

Edit 2 - Voilition Reins and steal the darn thing....

I mean the deck has a billion answers to a stupid Wurmcoil Engine......

[SubzeroDiabolos]

Why is Weltall even allowed on BG. There's a difference between being helpful and being a massive cock craving faggot.

On an unrelated note, you've never played me. You're just mad jealous because I don't have the real bombs and have to do without and you can't. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

EDIT TO MODS: I'm obviously trolling and using bad, bad words yes.. But don't say he's not deserving all of it and then more.

[oldoldman]

It actually apparently has three answers to wurmcoil engine, 2 of which are short term answers. You don't get it because you're blinded by the thought that your deck is just the nuts, which it isn't. It may have a favorable matchup against ramp but it certainly isn't a bye or anywhere really close to a bye and from what I've read Mono Red just runs it over. Memoricide being one of the best cards in standard is all theory, and speculative theory at that. Sometimes it's just straight card disadvantage and in some matchups it's hardly more than a speedbump. When paired with duress it becomes decent which I don't know if that's in the main deck or not. (I looked through 10 standard events on MODO and found 0 UB decks in top pegging.)

[oldoldman]

You guys both strike me as annoying scrubs, one just likes to netdeck more than the other.

[Weltall]

Why is Weltall even allowed on BG. There's a difference between being helpful and being a massive cock craving faggot.

On an unrelated note, you've never played me. You're just mad jealous because I don't have the real bombs and have to do without and you can't. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

EDIT TO MODS: I'm obviously trolling and using bad, bad words yes.. But don't say he's not deserving all of it and then more.

Why am I allowed on BG? Maybe, I have one of the oldest active accounts on the forum. Maybe because I've been a member 3 and half years longer than you.

On topic, I just don't like Red/Green in general. I've always been a white/black/blue player. Valakut is certainly a good deck and will have the % of the field for the next couple of months.