Magic: The Gathering

[Weltall]

Control decks are all about the player. You play against bad control players if you are 70% against with E-Green.

With all the preordains and Jace's....I could care less if you drop a Kozilek. By then I have dug out a V Reins for the win.

[Tonko]

Eldrazi green is no where near top tier right now. Pick a new deck if you want to actually be competitive at tournaments, if you're just playing for fun, go nuts. But don't claim it's top tier, cuz it's not.

[SubzeroDiabolos]

What's considered top tier where do you guys keep track of that kind of stuff?

[Tonko]

Just pay attention to big tournament results.
Currently B/U control, RUG control, WW quest, W/U control, and Valakut Titan are top tier imo.

[Indalecia]

What's considered top tier where do you guys keep track of that kind of stuff?

Top tier now or top tier when I played? :D

[SubzeroDiabolos]

I only play T2 so the past is irrevelent to me.

[Tonko]

I've just gotta say, RUG is fucking fun as hell to play. Oracle of Mul Duya + Jace is almost cheating.

[Zilong]

If you untap with Jace, anything else pretty much cease to matter

[Tonko]

Untap with Jace?

Wut?

[Tricen]

If you play jace and he sticks for the duration of your opponents turn, your win % sky rockets.

[Tonko]

lol, gotcha. Thought he was talking about some crazy untap ability he doesn't have.

[Tricen]

I need to teach some of my friends how to use Jace. I saw one fate seal a wall of omens and leave it on top. I was like wut. Then, their Jace was at 1 and his opp had a colonnade out and he fate sealed him. I was like, >__________________________________________>

[Weltall]

Just pay attention to big tournament results.
Currently B/U control, RUG control, WW quest, W/U control, and Valakut Titan are top tier imo.

I would agree with these decks. Maybe Boros is > Quest though. All are playable.

[Tricen]

Eh, quest is stronger imo. Valakut is just as bad if not worse than E-Green. Or maybe my Valakut deck REALLY hates me. I went 1-3 at an FNM with it. At an -FNM-. ((((. If it would stop giving me hands like Titan, titan, avenger, mountain, mountain, mountain, wurmcoil engine, I think I would be doing a lot better with it. -_-

[Weltall]

Valakut is getting worse and worse, I agree there. I just remember Boros dealing me 21 damage on its turn 3, my turn 2 and thinking..."Well shit..."

[SubzeroDiabolos]

Valakut used to be the deck that makes me rage quit as I see the first valakut hit the ground, now i'm like ok this is the pocket.

I really should have just came back to the game as white blue even though I always been a black player before.

[Tricen]

Valakut is getting worse and worse, I agree there. I just remember Boros dealing me 21 damage on its turn 3, my turn 2 and thinking..."Well shit..."

Well if any deck gets godhand you can't do much about it. WW quest god hand is turn 1 or 2 vindicate 8/8 eating your face. I am testing out Mono-B Vamps. It is pretty fun to be honest.

[Weltall]

Mono-b vamps is U/B worse enemy.....incredibely difficult to beat.

Little Jace, Doom Blade and more are just dead cards. Game 1 is impossible. It gets a little easier after board with Ratchet Bomb, Consuming Vapors, Disfigure, and Consume the Meek.

[SubzeroDiabolos]

If you spreading seas a creature'd Celestial colonnade does it stop existing as a creature? (all that pre-combat mainphase)

[Weltall]

No, it stays a creature until the end of turn.