Gingrich claims Obama's already failed.

[oldoldman]

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[pohibaba]

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That was easy!

So a bill that passed the Senate 90-8 and that passed the House 362-57 is completely the fault of the Republican Party and the Democrats shouldn't be blamed for it?

[oldoldman]

Has anyone in this thread said everything bad ever was 100% the republicans' fault? Or do you like knocking down strawmen?

I like how the GOP is all on his nuts, seemingly forgetting they had 8 years to do the same shit and pile drove us into this position we are now trying to claw our way out of.

Black man =/= straw man

[pohibaba]

Has anyone in this thread said everything bad ever was 100% the republicans' fault? Or do you like knocking down strawmen?

From the post I quoted in my original post:

lolnewt is a fucking joke to begin with. I like how the GOP is all on his nuts, seemingly forgetting they had 8 years to do the same shit and pile drove us into this position we are now trying to claw our way out of.

lolGOP

Are you trying to say that he's not blaming the problem we're in on the Republican Party?

[Correction]

So a bill that passed the Senate 90-8 and that passed the House 362-57 is completely the fault of the Republican Party and the Democrats shouldn't be blamed for it?

Your first question was answered. This one will take pages to sort out and I'm undermotivated to play badminton over politics this morning. Maybe later.

[Dimmauk]

So, Sub prime loans are the only reason the economy if fucked?

[Mizango]

I'm willing to give you a few days to formulate your answer.

Spoiler: show

By the way I'm not a Republican and I generally disagree with them on most things, I'm just curious as to why it's the Republicans fault and the Democrats are left blameless.

Not blameless, just saying the dog piling by Rush, Newt and company is a complete joke. Where were this outrage before January? Oh and I don't need a few days to formulate an answer, you know as well as I know that the GOP are a joke. I have no desire to get into a pissing contest for the 100th time this month.

Search my name and read my standing point(s) on the issue. Rehashing an issue 10000000 times doesn't make it any more correct lol. Everyone knows that before January everything here was peachy, jobs were in surplus, money was in everyone's pocket, there was no bail outs or bankruptcy etc.. Oh and the wars were totally legit, cant forget about that. Woe is me! How far we've fallen since Obama took office... fucking QQ more.

Speaking of Rush, I was watching Cash cab the other day when someone answered with "Hydrocodone" to a "conservative talk show host" question and got it right. God I love Ben Bailey.

[pohibaba]

Not blameless, just saying the dog piling by Rush, Newt and company is a complete joke. Where were this outrage before January? Oh and I don't need a few days to formulate an answer, you know as well as I know that the GOP are a joke. I have no desire to get into a pissing contest for the 100th time this month.

Search my name and read my standing point(s) on the issue. Rehashing an issue 10000000 times doesn't make it any more correct lol. Everyone knows that before January everything here was peachy, jobs were in surplus, money was in everyone's pocket, there was no bail outs or bankruptcy etc.. Oh and the wars were totally legit, cant forget about that. Woe is me! How far we've fallen since Obama took office... fucking QQ more.

Speaking of Rush, I was watching Cash cab the other day when someone answered with "Hydrocodone" to a "conservative talk show host" question and got it right. God I love Ben Bailey.

If that was your point then, while you worded it very poorly, it's something I can agree with. People like Rush Limbaugh, Keith Olbermann, Glen Beck, and Arianna Huffington are exactly what's wrong with American politics.

[Mizango]

Are you trying to say that he's not blaming the problem we're in on the Republican Party?

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[Mizango]

If that was your point then, while you worded it very poorly, it's something I can agree with. People like Rush Limbaugh, Keith Olbermann, Glen Beck, and Arianna Huffington are exactly what's wrong with American politics.

Well that I can agree with. Is this the part where we have sex?

[pohibaba]

Well that I can agree with. Is this the part where we have sex?

Your black cock would rip a new orifice in me, so I'll pass. Thanks for the offer though.

[Tristam]

From the post I quoted in my original post:



Are you trying to say that he's not blaming the problem we're in on the Republican Party?

Ok..

The constriction of the economy was a universal problem, not limited to the actions of any single party or group of people. However, given the immense freedom to propose and enact legislation that the republican party had over the past eight years, and that they had a majority in both the house and senate, as well as a president, you deserve a proportional share of the blame for the events that occurred during your tenure. You cannot get your way for the better part of eight years, and shirk away from the blame when bad things happen. The democrats, as I've mentioned, were about as feeble a political party as they could be inasfar as standing up to a president and congress who were equally and extremely unpopular. To assign equal blame to both parties isn't quite justifiable.

Over the past eight years, the legislation put through and the economic policies set forth have been largely championed by the republicans, by virtue of the fact that there were more of them. I don't think it's irresponsible to place most of the blame on them. You can bet they'd be tooting their own horn about how great they did if the economy held off for the next election cycle, and the dems, characteristically, would have been quiet as a mouse and sulking at their own fragility. If the economy was still doing fantastic, would we really be singing the praises of the democratic party and giving them equal props for their work? Of course not.

Perhaps I was the one who misinterpreted Mizango's post, I took it to mean that the republicans deserved the majority of the blame, as they had the aforementioned freedom to act as they pleased over the past eight years. This is something I agree with. If you want to bring up mismanagement from democratic majorities, perfectly fine and dandy. I did not think Miz was leaving out the Dems entirely, if he was, my mistake. I tend to give the more reasonable people on this board the benefit of the doubt.

[Mizango]

Your black cock would rip a new orifice in me, so I'll pass. Thanks for the offer though.

lol <3

[oldoldman]

So, Sub prime loans are the only reason the economy if fucked?

No there are a multitude of factors that caused the economy to tank, that's the fucking point. Tristam if we're speaking technically it was a Democratic congress that oversaw the collapse of the economy, but facts are so pesky.


Seriously though, can we just not worry about who's fault this is? There are much more fun topics to relentlessly debate.

[Mizango]

Economic Darwinism.

It is law.

[oldoldman]

Economic Darwinism.

It is law.

/thread.

[Tristam]

Tristam if we're speaking technically it was a Democratic congress that oversaw the collapse of the economy, but facts are so pesky.


Seriously though, can we just not worry about who's fault this is? There are much more fun topics to relentlessly debate.

If we're speaking technically, there's more to it than who was there when it "started". But I agree with your second statement. Perhaps I should have said "legislation that you enacted" rather than "events that occurred"

There's probably a discussion to be had about whether the legislation enacted in response to the imminent collapse was appropriate and/or helpful, but you're right I don't know if that's appropriate for this thread.

[oldoldman]

If we're speaking technically, there's more to it than who was there when it "started".

What I was getting at was trying to determine who was "more to blame" in such a multifaceted issue would be an ill conceived method at best.

[Demosthenes11]

won't someone just come out and say that we have no fucking clue how the economy works and are left making baseless guesses about it in congress in order to gain votes from constituents that are equally arrogant and clueless.

It's like predicting the weather, only 4 years in advance. Let's not play the damn blame game, figure out what is wrong, and fucking fix it. Stop playing politics for 1 minute

[Serif]

won't someone just come out and say that we have no fucking clue how the economy works and are left making baseless guesses about it in congress in order to gain votes from constituents that are equally arrogant and clueless.

It's like predicting the weather, only 4 years in advance. Let's not play the damn blame game, figure out what is wrong, and fucking fix it. Stop playing politics for 1 minute

Where is the fun in that

I need my Fox News!