Day of Defeat:Source uses faction weapons too, I think it's a good idea since each faction does use unique weaponry, however, in battlefield you don't get to choose which team you're on though, i'm not sure i'd be ok with using weapons i don't want to because i'm forced to be on that team.
[edit] talking about rush/conquest mostly. but basically the same in deathmatch too i would think
It depends on the stats too. It's really going to annoy me if they have different stats like in BF2, although if they're statistically identical I don't mind a model difference for the sake of realism.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/08/01/ba...og-tag-system/
Battlefield 3 gets stealthy with brutal knife kills and upgraded dog tag system
Brutal new knife-kill animations and a revamped dog tag system will reward players stealthy enough to get behind their enemies in Battlefield 3. In Bad Company 2, dog tags were straightforward trophies, in Battlefield 3, they’ll act as each player’s personal calling card. Each tag can be customised with a selection of designs, and engraved with a stat of the player’s choice.
A new post on the Battlefield blog outlines the new tag system. Every time you kill an enemy, they will see your tags, making them the perfect place to brag about your proudest stats. Killed 700 people with a knife? Carve that fact into your iron ID. The numbers update dynamically, too, so your enemy will know if they’re knife kill number 701.
New knife kill animations add extra incentive to hunt for dog tags. You can see one of them about 15 seconds into this video. Stealing your enemies’ tags will certainly be harder in Battlefield 3, but that just makes them that much more valuable. A picture from the Battlefield blog below shows what you’re stabbing for.
Battlefield 3 will be out on October 25 in the US, and October 28 internationally.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/01/ba...order-bonuses/
Battlefield 3 rolls out retailer specific pre-order bonuses
It wouldn't be a new entry in a popular series without retailer specific pre-order bonuses. As previously revealed, all pre-orders will receive the limited edition of Battlefield 3 and, thus, the "Back to Karkand" map pack DLC, though each retailer will also have some different additional bonuses.
GameStop is offering the (timed exclusive) "Physical Warfare" DLC and PowerUp Rewards members will also snag a copy of the Prima strategy guide. Best Buy pre-orders will receive the "SPECACT Kit," a package of eight multiplayer skins. Finally, Amazon pre-orders include a pack of exclusive multiplayer dog tags.
Sadly not included with any of the pre-orders: Free time.
Did I read it wrong, or do you get a free guide for being a powerup member at gamestop?
what kind of game modes does BF have. conquer and faction vs faction ?
Rush- 2 bomb sites. after both are destroyed the map extends to new area and more bomb sites appear. offense wins when all bomb sites on entire map are gone(huge maps). defense wins if offense runs out of reinforcements
Squad Rush- same as rush, but only one squad on each team (4v4)
Conquest-3 flag domination
Squad Deathmatch- 4v4v4v4 first to certain number of kills wins
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/02/ba...h-online-pass/
Battlefield 3 'probably' shipping with online pass
The confusion regarding EA's plans for Battlefield 3's multiplayer access is palpable. GamerZines reports that Battlefield 3 Executive Producer Patrick Bach stated in an interview last week that the game would "probably" require a code for access to multiplayer. When pushed on whether EA would lock out second-hand players through use of an online pass, he replied, "I think we are." EA told the site it would pick up the conversation "another time."
The latest major iteration of the Battlefield franchise, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, implemented a "VIP Pass," granting access to extra content, but placed no initial limitations on multiplayer access. EA's online pass (i.e. Project Ten Dollar) -- now utilized by many publishers, with Ubisoft being the latest -- cuts off multiplayer to anyone who doesn't purchase a code, which comes bundled in new copies of games. Of course, with today's announcement of EA Sports Season Ticket (i.e. Project 25 Dollar), there's a whole new level of possibility.
"The whole idea is that we're paying for servers and if you create a new account there is a big process on how that is being handled in the back end," Bach said. "We would rather have you buy a new game than a used game because buying a used game is only a cost to us; we don't get a single dime from a used game, but we still need to create server space and everything for you."
We've reached out to EA for clarification.
My ass
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/06/ba...rvice-restric/
Battlefield 3 won't be sold on Steam; EA claims service 'restricts our ability to directly support players'
EA's big holiday release, Battlefield 3, apparently won't be available via Valve's ubiquitous PC game download service, Steam, as previously hinted. Taking to Twitter and its own forums, EA announced as much with some interesting, if not inflammatory, claims. "BF3 will not be available on Steam as the service restricts our ability to directly support players," the Twitter account says.
The forum post goes a bit further in explaining the publisher's position, though it doesn't go so far as to explicitly explain the schism. "Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content," the forum post reads. "No other download service has adopted these practices." As with Dragon Age 2, this is in reference to one specific part of Steam's Terms of Service agreement, which forces games to deliver DLC and patches through Steam rather than through a game-specific client. EA claims this to be restrictive, and thus refuses to sell some titles through the service.
It remains unclear why EA -- who, in the past, has offered a variety of games through Steam, regardless of the Terms of Service -- refuses to offer DLC and patches through Steam suddenly, but it certainly appears to be a stance the company is staying firm on. The forum post also notes EA's inclination towards resolving the issue with Valve, saying, "We hope to work out an agreement where Steam can carry Battlefield 3; meanwhile, gamers can pick from the more than 100 digital retailers."
Which is good for me because I have a $40 gamestop giftcard sitting here that is like a year old.
is too different the playstyle between cod and bf?
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/06/ba...bad-company-2/
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/batt...8/05/bb.aspx##
Battlefield 3 to have 10 times the unlocks as Bad Company 2
Battlefield 3 will have 10 times the hardware unlocks as Bad Company 2, in an obvious ploy to keep players away from friends, family and potential mates for years to come. Battleblog #5, "Years worth of unlocks and rewards in Battlefield 3," unsurprisingly boasts a massive unlock tree for vehicles and oodles of unlocks for weapons, weapons attachments and gadgets. It also lists awards, service stars, kit tailoring options and tactical unlock details.
Battleblog #5 focuses on Battlefield 3's "play it your way" philosophy, giving players more flexibility in creating their kits and earning service stars to keep us playing well into 2013 and beyond. Just not on Steam.http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/batt...d-edition.aspxBattlefield 3 will be the deepest shooter in DICE history. Read on for the full story on how we will reward skill and dedication, and how our flexible unlock and customization system allows you to tailor the game for your personal play style.
“Battlefield players are among the most loyal out there. Our games are literally played for years by our hardcore fans, and we want to actively support that. There should always be something left to achieve in Battlefield 3.”
Valerian Noghin and Fredrik Thylander are Persistence Designers on Battlefield 3. They’re the guys making sure you will have as much fun with the game in 2013 as on launch day.
Back in 2005, Battlefield 2 was one of the first shooters to introduce a deep persistence system to add that extra layer of tasty rewards and unlocks to keep players returning to the battlefield for hundreds of hours. With Battlefield 3, we are pulling all the stops. Compared to Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3 will have more than 10 times the hardware unlocks spread over weapons, weapons attachments, gadgets, and a huge unlock tree for vehicles alone.
Skill and dedication equal rewards
On top of these ingame hardware items, players will also be richly rewarded with medals, ribbons and service stars displaying their skill, commitment, and teamplay prowess. You will be rewarded handsomely in Battlefield 3 for exemplary skill, such as capturing X amount of bases in one round. Excellent teamplayers who keep the team’s vehicles in mint condition and revive fallen comrades will not go unnoticed either. These type of skill-driven rewards are typically handed out in the form of ribbons, and good players can often get more than one ribbon in a single round.
Winning a round for the team should always be the priority, so we are making sure that even when players are chasing their personal achievements, they are contributing to the overall battle. You will also be rewarded for true dedication and commitment, such as playing x amount of hours as a U.S. soldier. These honors come in the form of the much harder to get medals. They are typically given at specific milestones in your career.
There are a large number of ranks in Battlefield 3, similar to Battlefield: Bad Company 2. Your rank badge is a quick measure of your overall progress in the game. And even if you hit the max rank, there is always more glory to strive for with the new concept of Service Stars that we are introducing in Battlefield 3.
Service Stars challenge the hardcore
Even getting your first Service Star would be a major achievement. But keep playing, and you will be eligible for even further promotion by getting Service Stars added to your weapon skill badge, your vehicle, your kit, and your overall rank. Anytime your kill card is displayed, everyone will see exactly how experienced you are with your current equipment. The ultimate bragging right would be for a player to be awarded the rank of Colonel with 100 Service Stars attached, and to have 100 stars in all weapons, kits, and vehicles. Getting there will be a massive task – consider that a challenge!
The design philosophy behind the unlocks in Battlefield 3 is pretty sweet. We basically give you more hardware to play with for doing what you love to do. Case in point: Using gun X will give you more upgrades specifically for that gun. Playing with a kit and vehicle earns more upgrades for that kit and that vehicle. In addition, all XP gained also goes towards your overall rank, which in turn unlocks new weapons, specializations, and camouflages usable by any class.
Play Battlefield 3 your way
The mantra we keep coming back to when designing Battlefield 3 is “play it your way”. What that means is there’s an unprecedented flexibility in how you tailor your kits. The playable classes are not rigidly defined in what they are supposed to play like. While all four classes in Battlefield 3 (Assault, Engineer, Support, Recon) start out with everything they need to be an efficient soldier in the field, it is totally up to you and your personal preferences how you want to tailor them.
Take the Assault class, for example. As you may know by now, this is now the class that has the ability to equip both a defibrillator and medkit for frontline medic abilities. But if you would prefer to switch your add-ons to, say, an underslung grenade launcher with 40mm grenades, go ahead! That will give you an Assault soldier with a more offensive set of capabilities than the player who opts for the default medic approach.
Tactical unlocks force you to choose the right loadout for you
That’s the way all of the unlocks and upgrades work. They are specifically designed to be tactical in nature, forcing you to choose loadout based on the map and situation. Do you go for the heavy barrel for your assault rifle? It gives added accuracy for single shots, but at the cost of stronger recoil in burst fire/full auto mode. A standard assault rifle can be modified into a long range accurate weapon or for close quarter, almost SMG-like, combat. For jets, do you go with Maverick ATG missiles to take out tanks or AA missiles to dogfight airborne threats? With your Engineer, do you bring your anti-tank or your anti-air RPG launcher?
In short, we think there has never been a better time to be a Battlefield gamer, no matter your play style.
FAQ on the Open Beta
How early is early access?
Early access to the Open Beta is 48 hours before the public is allowed to enter.
How will my early access to the Open Beta be delivered if I am eligible?
This will be communicated later. Stay tuned.
Who can participate in the Open Beta?
The Battlefield 3 Open Beta will be available to all, on all platforms, in September.
Can I get early access to the Open Beta by pre-ordering Battlefield 3 on Origin?
Yes, if you pre-order the digital download PC version of Battlefield 3: Limited Edition on Origin. This will also entitle you to the pre-order items Physical Warfare Pack plus the Shotgun and Beret for Battlefield Play4Free -- see above.
I bought Medal of Honor Limited Edition/Tier 1 Edition and was promised entry to the Battlefield 3 Beta -- is that a different Beta than the Open Beta just announced?
No, it is the same Open Beta, but as a first-hand buyer of Medal of Honor: Limited Edition/Tier 1 Edition, you will have 48 hours early access.
What if I bought Medal of Honor: Limited Edition/Tier 1 Edition as a digital download -- do I still get early access to the Open Beta?
Yes.
What are the exact dates for the Open Beta?
The exact dates for the Open Beta will be announced later.
What if I pre-ordered the digital download version of Battlefield 3: Limited Edition on Origin before they announced the early access to the Open Beta -- do I still get this early access?
Yes.
Seems like the command rose is back(hold Q for commands in BF2 etc)
Jet gameplay and Conquest reveal at Gamescom
Also it would appear early beta invites for MOH:LE are going out? Not sure if shooped well enough, haven't revived mine yet.
And here is a picture of it running on PS3.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/08/12/ba...rigin-to-play/
Battlefield 3 retail copies will require Origin to play
Battlefield 3 retail copies will require players to install Origin to work, according to a Q&A session between fans and DICE community manager Daniel Martos on the BF3blog. Fans were asking whether Origin would be required to run the retail version of Battlefield 3. Martos tweeted “Yes those ‘rumours’ are true.” Beyond retail, Battlefield 3 will be available to buy through all major digital stores except Steam, but it’s not clear whether those versions will also require EA’s new client to be installed.
And that right there ensured I will not be buying or playing Battlefield 3.
In the Origin EULA, you automatically consent to:
There is no opt out other than not using the client.2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION. This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at www.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.
If the client is required to play any EA game, I will not be buying said EA game.
p.s. The Steam Subscriber Agreement has no such clause.
yeah that's gonna piss off some people
I try not to be that guy, the one that announces to the interwebs about how he's not going to buy a game he was previously looking forward to because the company does something questionable, but EA really is a shit ass company. It seems like they come up with more reasons to stay away from their games every day.