Campaign Gets Reinforcements! (06/15/2009)

[Fridell]

Just to clarify, I don't mean Refresh alone, I don't care much if they add Refresh bodies at all, its just good, what I didnt like was what Starr said, which was epic bodies close to EBody and so on.

[Destinye]

I'm more concerned about how these new zones will affect Splitting Heirs. Will we have to take over Xarca/Beau as well as the current zones?

Hopefully you can net Gnad Helm off the Campaign leaders while participating in Unions.

I'm pretty sure being that the Kindred are 'freelance' to an extent that won't have any baring most likely. It's also around the final point of when 'Dynamis' pops up, which could also as someone said, would make sense storywise if we start getting relic armor from it too, so taking it could lead to more 'Dynamis' related rewards like relic and higher tiered currency..but I doubt it would affect the Splitting Heirs.

Besides, some of the Kindred are bad enough..fighting the 'top dogs' would be insane >.>

Just to clarify, I don't mean Refresh alone, I don't care much if they add Refresh bodies at all, its just good, what I didnt like was what Starr said, which was epic bodies close to EBody and so on.

And people wonder why most look at FFXI as a game for masochists only.

[The Blackrose]

I'm more concerned about how these new zones will affect Splitting Heirs. Will we have to take over Xarca/Beau as well as the current zones?

Hopefully you can net Gnad Helm off the Campaign leaders while participating in Unions.

Wait... What?

You say Splitting Heirs one moment then bring up something that drops from The Blood-bathed Crown. Talk about confusing.

[Seraph]

Which means what exactly?

This is what's trippin me up:


That, to me, makes it sound that we'll only be able to go up to Moonlight Medal after the next update.

Originally I wasn't sure if that meant Medals, then something else after.
Perhaps they are only releasing half the medals then.

I misspoke, to an extent. As far as 'Campaign Medals' are concerned, the 'Medals' tier that will be released either partially or completely represents the final level of medals. To me, that implies that all AN purchasable items would realistically be released with the update.

Since at the very least, the Starlight Medal is being released, it allows access to the final tier of AN prizes. I wasn't quite sure why you were implying that the 'next' stages of prizes might cost 100K, and then 150K when really this update is it. Just one new level of stuff, unless you are implying there might be something in there more expensive than the AN Bodies...

I put it in ASCII below. Right now we have access to all "Wings" medals, and after the update we will have access to at least one of the "Medal" medals.

Medals

Type        §                           §§                          §§§                         §§§§
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Ribbon      Bronze Ribbon of Service    Brass Ribbon of Service     Allied Ribbon of Bravery    Allied Ribbon of Glory
Star        Bronze Star                 Sterling Star               Mythril Star                Golden Star
Emblem      Copper Emblem of Service    Iron Emblem of Service      Steelknight Emblem          Holyknight Emblem
Wings       Brass Wings of Service      Mythril Wings of Service    Wings of Integrity          Wings of Honor
Medal       Starlight Medal             Moonlight Medal             Dawnlight Medal             Medal Of Altana

[Yugl]

Wait... What?

You say Splitting Heirs one moment then bring up something that drops from The Blood-bathed Crown. Talk about confusing.

Two separate ideas. One was that I hope it doesn't affect Splitting Heirs. The other is that I hope Gnad Helm drops from this.

[Ultimagi]

Since at the very least, the Starlight Medal is being released, it allows access to the final tier of AN prizes. I wasn't quite sure why you were implying that the 'next' stages of prizes might cost 100K, and then 150K when really this update is it. Just one new level of stuff, unless you are implying there might be something in there more expensive than the AN Bodies...

Every rank thus far has different items costing different amounts of Allied Notes, except Wings.

[Damane]

I'm more concerned about how these new zones will affect Splitting Heirs. Will we have to take over Xarca/Beau as well as the current zones?

Hopefully you can net Gnad Helm off the Campaign leaders while participating in Unions.

i think xarca/beau will work under different circumstances/rules. What we will get to see is probably all 3 nations attacking xarca and/beaucidine as a "team", hence it doesnt matter when you do "union" what is your homenation.

Prolly there will be BCNM area in xarca, opening the possiblity to add such fights for xarca, when both xarca and beaucidine are under nations controll (which will likely be really tough to get).

I think what we are looking at are 3 or 4 campaign places in the north:
Xarcabard, Castle Keep, Beaucidine and maybe Fey'in, but I highly doubt Fey'in will be put in. Maybe they also add the Raungemont pass to it.

[ronin sparthos]

Two separate ideas. One was that I hope it doesn't affect Splitting Heirs. The other is that I hope Gnad Helm drops from this.

That'd completely invalidate the point of SCNMs inside La Vaule though.

[Darte]

Why is everyone making a deal out of upgrading relics through campaign?

This is SE we're talking about.

More likely than not, its going to be 64 people lotting on 1 bronze piece with an iffy drop rate to begin with

[Plow]

I'm picturing Tenshodo casket popping at the end of union events and you have to have X contribution to pick up a reward.

[Yugl]

That'd completely invalidate the point of SCNMs inside La Vaule though.

That depends on how it's implemented and the drop rate. If they add a bunch of other drops in order to "Crowd out" the good drops, I can see people still resorting to SCNMs.

[spooky]

Ancient Currencies have been available via the Bubu Pennisula chart BC for a long time. If this is what SE means about "available" dyna currencies, prices will not change a wink.

Except with the chart you MIGHT get 1 currency, and with this there is the potential to get lots on a very regular basis from a large number of people.

[ronin sparthos]

This'll be Einherjar all over again.

SE overstates how awesome the rewards will be, hype ensues, patch goes live, people get 1-3 currency/run.

There's no way in hell SE is going to make this a viable place to get currency given the game is already over-saturated with relic weapons.

Im far more interested in seeing if we get some unique R/EX rewards from this event. More beastmen-themed equipment please, reskinned quad/orc/gob hats will work for starters.

[Max™]

There should be some yummy weapons and stuff tossed into the wings tier rewards as well as the bodies. Personally I don't care what the I.R. body has on it, getting it cause it'll look nice on my taru.

Besides making effects like Campaign: Refresh, they could also make it like Gaudy Harness just as an example.

Tenshodo type chest rewards would kinda make sense, you complete a battle, chest drops, everyone runs up and checks it, each person who "contributed" gets something random.

[JigglyJam]

Need to un-nerf the fortifications exp/AN. Windurst on Ragnarok is just the city and has been for a few weeks.

[Max™]

Windy on Carby owns all 6 zones, just a matter of getting people to care about Campaign.

Fuck the forts, seriously. Fuck all the afk leveling, fuck all the people skilling random weapons while afk. I don't miss the lag, and I certainly don't mind having zones change hands regularly for a little more variety in the battles when I do feel like campaigning.

Beastmen owned zones are better exp anyways, the mobs are more likely to be up when you get there, the fights last longer, and leechkeepers are way better than forts ever were anyways.

[BRP]

Things that don't fight back are not worth fighting. Forts should just be removed from the game and in place of them there should be multiple NMs.


EDIT: Though, I think more people are interested in killing things that have no risk of failure/death/damage/challenge/etc.

[Max™]

Like Leechkeepers/Low end Yagudo/Quadav grunts?

[Bishop1]

cant wait to see how much relic coins will drop. if 100s drop i would imagine the prices will drop to about 700k for coins.

[Lordshin]

i don't see why you should get more than 200 exp for hitting a wall... a lot of your exp/AN is based on damage taken and damage healed. And since a wall can't hit you you don't get that exp.
They should make Forts like the belfries (or were they mantelets?), spawn mobs when hit

Can't wait for this update. Campaign is one of my favorite things in this game