NIN tanking on Colibri

[Tsuko_Asura]

I've been trying to help my wife get to 75 BLM since she's BLU only with dalm and genie and the glaring eyes are starting to be noticeable so we've been syncing to like 10->37 over and over again with my PLD every time we can.

Best EXP so far is yuhtunga at 23 and dunes are 10 - dunes just camp right in the middle and pull 3 mobs at once np average about 14k/hr constant. Yuhtunga is about 17-18k/hr if you bring 2-3 BLM + COR (and 2-3PLs <_<) pull as many mandies as possible and gobs and w/e the fuck you want and let PL get hate on all and fight one mandy at a time with the BLM only doing -ga spells. Work your way through them and on 5-6 mobs by time you get to the last one its already at like 10% - just have someone chain pulling and watch for heavy ga right on pull and you're set.

Beats the shit out of Colibri even as PLD (unless I do friends / LS with PL and 3 RNG + COR)

Valkurm at level 10? Number of members, setup, etc.?

If its anywhere near what Lower Delkfutt's is capable of, I think I'll move my spot. Finding a Corsair and Bard(which is pretty manditory to pull off 15-20k/H in the tower) is a fucking nightmare, I'll gladly cut EXP a tad if all I need to do is find a level 10 person.

[BerenTebogo]

Sath, i cant play ninja on colibri, help they always kill me when i cast ichi ;;. By this i mean they KNOW when i cast ichi, and they use pecking flurry.

Reiterating since someone modded me (ill kill you) - you cant cast shadows because you're a fucking idiot.

K. Back on topic.

[BerenTebogo]

Valkurm at level 10? Number of members, setup, etc.?

If its anywhere near what Lower Delkfutt's is capable of, I think I'll move my spot. Finding a Corsair and Bard(which is pretty manditory to pull off 15-20k/H in the tower) is a fucking nightmare, I'll gladly cut EXP a tad if all I need to do is find a level 10 person.

6 members - 2-3 PL is mandatory since I usually do all DD or BLM and COR/BRD

[Marcicus]

Hitting 20k/hr in Qufim is the shit, 18-75 in one to two weeks npnp. But I won't lie, I like using some of my other abilities and weapon skills instead of spamming shit like Fast Blade all the time.

[Tsuko_Asura]

6 members - 2-3 PL is mandatory since I usually do all DD or BLM and COR/BRD

Try using a Scholar. Ascension is like having six PL at once ;D

[Panthera]

Well, its technically significantly faster to EXP the most efficient way, and then skill up your weapon. I suppose if you flat-out cannot stand it, do what you've got to do, but as far as efficiency goes, you're better off worrying about it later.

^^^This.

I've told people i have a Bard AND a Red Mage in the party, and they refused because they didn't want to Level Synch to 55 when they were 67+. Bards and Red Mages simply do not grow on trees individually, and together they're even better. Get in these parties when you have the chance, rather than standing around with your flag up for hours on end trying to get into a party your own level, especially if you're picky about setups, and particularly if it's the crummy 65-72 range where there's really no good camps; worry about skillups when people are shouting to go to the Tree.

@Fridell

War/nins are fine, those that have the stomach for "tanking," anyway. However, it's best to pair them up with another war/nin, so that they have someone who can instantly and reliably pull hate off of them when shadows are down. Sure, a Dragoon or Samurai *can* pull hate with a Weapon Skill, but they are not guaranteed to have the wherewithal to so when necessary. Rangers don't make very good partners for all the running around that ends up happening, and they don't have much HP or DEF when they're shadows go down, so they lack the survivability that Dragoons, Samurais, or other War/nins have. And Three shadows don't last very long, especially against Pecking Flurry, so war/nins are best off with a partner. Marsh Murres, however, are a bit more forgiving. Even so, a partner is best.

Nice thing about *competent* Paladins is stand a better chance of tanking against Rangers et all, and they don't need the kind of pairing up that War/nins do. Can always give new members a /check before you leave Whitegate. If they aren't up to snuff, give them the boot!

[BerenTebogo]

^^^This.

I've told people i have a Bard AND a Red Mage in the party, and they refused because they didn't want to Level Synch to 55 when they were 67+. Bards and Red Mages simply do not grow on trees individually, and together they're even better. Get in these parties when you have the chance, rather than standing around with your flag up for hours on end trying to get into a party your own level, especially if you're picky about setups, and particularly if it's the crummy 65-72 range where there's really no good camps; worry about skillups when people are shouting to go to the Tree.

@Fridell

War/nins are fine, those that have the stomach for "tanking," anyway. However, it's best to pair them up with another war/nin, so that they have someone who can instantly and reliably pull hate off of them when shadows are down. Sure, a Dragoon or Samurai *can* pull hate with a Weapon Skill, but they are not guaranteed to have the wherewithal to so when necessary. Rangers don't make very good partners for all the running around that ends up happening, and they don't have much HP or DEF when they're shadows go down, so they lack the survivability that Dragoons, Samurais, or other War/nins have. And Three shadows don't last very long, especially against Pecking Flurry, so war/nins are best off with a partner. Marsh Murres, however, are a bit more forgiving. Even so, a partner is best.

Nice thing about *competent* Paladins is stand a better chance of tanking against Rangers et all, and they don't need the kind of pairing up that War/nins do. Can always give new members a /check before you leave Whitegate. If they aren't up to snuff, give them the boot!

I'm in a party on PLD right now with a BRD, RDM, and the 3 worst DDs I've ever seen in my entire life. To the point that I'm tanking a mob while writing this without tabbing back to revoke and im sure it wont be a problem.

BRD + RDM do not assure good exp. This fucking sucks.

[Limlight]

qufim until you can do east ron (s) parties all the way to 55 *thumbs up*

[Despain]

qufim until you can do east ron (s) parties all the way to 55 *thumbs up*

I leveled THF to 54 doing nothing but East Ron ptys. But I decided to stop because I actually wanted to have enough combat skill to use Dancing Edge. >_>' Honestly THF is best at 60+.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I leveled THF to 54 doing nothing but East Ron ptys. But I decided to stop because I actually wanted to have enough combat skill to use Dancing Edge. >_>' Honestly THF is best at 60+.

Thief is a monster in the 20's. Anyone who can reliably shoot Acid Bolts is going to wreck everyone else in not only usefulness, but in raw DPS(crossbow is broken at low levels). THF/RNG with H2H for SA Combo and a good crossbow is beautiful in Qufim, and honestly makes them one of the most premier jobs to have around(next to WAR).

[Fridell]

That's how I meant Panthera, just didn't type it lol, never meant 1 of those jobs should solo tank, but pair em up, WAR WAR or WAR SAM or SAM SAM etc. Sometimes I think, and think I type what I think ; ;

[Limlight]

can't disagree with you mez, its like me and my current projects mnk and rng. Rng i'm still at lvl37 skill for archery/marks but nearly lvl 50, i'll just take a day and go out on thf then war and skill up to cap on kuftal crabs.

h2h i did war/mnk (war caps around 210 h2h) it worked.

[Despain]

Thief is a monster in the 20's. Anyone who can reliably shoot Acid Bolts is going to wreck everyone else in not only usefulness, but in raw DPS(crossbow is broken at low levels). THF/RNG with H2H for SA Combo and a good crossbow is beautiful in Qufim, and honestly makes them one of the most premier jobs to have around(next to WAR).

When I meant I think its best, I meant in terms of entertainment. I don't find anything at level that level entertaining for THF. I'm obsessed with Dancing Edge and Assassin.

[Aurara]

you cant cast shadows because you're a fucking idiot.

what should i do then if it flurries when im in the middle of ichi then? pray to god Ni gets up fast?

[Panthera]

I'm in a party on PLD right now with a BRD, RDM, and the 3 worst DDs I've ever seen in my entire life. To the point that I'm tanking a mob while writing this without tabbing back to revoke and im sure it wont be a problem.

BRD + RDM do not assure good exp. This fucking sucks.

WOW! I'm... so sorry. So very, very sorry.

This is what the YDoJ is for (Yellow Dot of Justice). Again, if someone's gear or skills can't handle birds, /pcmd kick Xgimpyguyx. Put your flag up, and you have no control over setup or what constitutes acceptable gear. While healers are hard to find, Damage Dealers come in 31 flavors if you take my meaning, so you get to be a lil more picky. Tanking is not just about WHAT you're fighting, but who with.

Shit and a bard is just +1 Shit. Minuet IV doesn't do much when you're swatting with an Onion Knife. That's why double Bard parties aren't necessarally good; with three melees instead of four, the melees need top notch gear; there has to be something substantial there for a Bard to buff, when you're using quality to make up for a lack of quantity.

But if you think your party sucks now, imagine it without the Bard! And let's replace your Red Mage with a Summoner. No, Bard and Red Mage do not guarantee good exp. But they guarantee the party is as good as it's going to be, all things being equal. Take these parties when you get the chance when you're seeking, and kick as needed when you're leading.