Mythic Decisions (BRD, BLU, WHM)

[frodnonnag]

bards don't need daggers to sing.

[Spekkio]

Brd it really depends on how you feel about it like others have said. Adding 24 second on all songs from 2:24 to 2:48 means almost 3 minutes of buffs (or 3 song cyles that last 8:24 seconds) . If you maxed troub/night to 10 minutes from elegy at (216 seconds base to 252 now to) 504 seconds or 8.4 minutes (or 8:24) a normal song set to 5.6 minutes (5:36 which with one more set of songs is 8:24 for song. You could almost solo brd/blm es elegy there if your ls didn't mind having it sometimes not being up 1:36.

Yagarush though would be usefull for melee on whm and always usefull on na's, erase and should probably change it the way Ghorn and aegis change pld and brd. Outside of cures and the most potent barspells you would only relly need 1 whm for any event that would require more then 1 party. Hell even for low man outside na's on the party would kick ass to. Hell outside of relic club i couldn't think of a better club to melee with on whm either.

one cautionary tale for yagrush is that if divine veil modded spells function in the same way as diffusion (and i believe it does) a single poisona hitting 6 people is 5 CE higher than a provoke. it does open some interesting avenues of whm tanking but i haven't figured out a situation where it is beneficial over a more traditional tank.

[astura]

True if it is more enmity then you would you want to doing na's/erase in full -enmity sets (as close to -50 enmity as possible) over the usual haste/fast cast on na's. But yeah a whm tank would be intresting for mass producing enmity but it would be tough to see where because all whm has for it as a tank (defensivly) is 390 SS/barspells/MDB4. It would be real hard to find any -% dmg (physical or magical) on whm.

[Yugl]

True if it is more enmity then you would you want to doing na's/erase in full -enmity sets (as close to -50 enmity as possible) over the usual haste/fast cast on na's..

That and you shouldn't need such gear if you have the relic since you hit multiple people at once.

Edit: Referring to Haste only

[Sumiko]

wow! Thank you for the insights everyone!

So I guess BLU would really be out of the question for me unless they decide to change merits. (sigh) So unfair. -_-; Or I wish they would just get rid of the march tier or just add more Merits so I can merit Blue Magic ;_;

WHM getting a lot of good response... BRD still mixed Thank you guys!! You're awesome! I'm gonna lean toward WHM.

[Dench]

I'm in the same shoes as you (minus BLU) and as I have been working on the BRD Mythic in my head.. I'm starting to wonder if I wouldn't rather do WHM, as it really is more useful in the end.

I love playing BRD but that's a lot of money for not much return when it comes to that weapon.

[jimbobsonofgod]

do blu!

cause jim is doing blu !

[orson]

I'd have to say the Whm one is by far the most useful.

[Sai]

True if it is more enmity then you would you want to doing na's/erase in full -enmity sets (as close to -50 enmity as possible) over the usual haste/fast cast on na's.

I cast 'na spells in exactly -50 enmity, while maintaining 15% haste and 2 pieces of gear which give fast cast. I've never had hate issues directly related to Yagrush pulling too much hate.

And on a side note, don't do Yagrush. Remember, it's better for melees to spend 20m in meds and buy 9000 echo drops.

Spoiler: show

Just kidding, I love Yagrush and have 0 regrets about upgrading it. It really makes whm stand out and is an upgrade to the job itself.

[NikeahOrazu]

I vote BRD, sounds like your a brd by trade and a brd by love. A Ghorn brd and still enjoying it. Go pro!

[Vigilia]

Yagrush or whatever the one you really really want yourself.

And your deviantart stuff is very nice.

[Arkanos]

Sumi~ (Cyferis here)

It seems like you're already leaning towards Yagrush, but I have to ask; would it be for your main or for your second character? If you can get it on your second character, and you two-box it regularly as you mentioned, I'd say that would be the best choice. If it's for your main, it's closer, but I'll still lean towards Yagrush. I really don't see +24s on songs as anything worth the ~90mil it takes even if you have a gjalla already.

[Marcicus]

True if it is more enmity then you would you want to doing na's/erase in full -enmity sets (as close to -50 enmity as possible) over the usual haste/fast cast on na's. But yeah a whm tank would be intresting for mass producing enmity but it would be tough to see where because all whm has for it as a tank (defensivly) is 390 SS/barspells/MDB4. It would be real hard to find any -% dmg (physical or magical) on whm.

Terra's Staff, Umbra Cape, Jelly Ring, Goliard Trews is -34% right there and I am sure I am probably missing something. That, and WHM can also hit capped gear haste if I remember correctly.

[Arkanos]

Terra's Staff, Umbra Cape, Jelly Ring, Goliard Trews is -34% right there and I am sure I am probably missing something. That, and WHM can also hit capped gear haste if I remember correctly.

Throw in d.ring (lol) and that makes 50% at night.

Magic damage taken for whm: 2x Merman rings (8%), 2x Merman Earrings (4%), Lieutenant's Sash (2%), Shadow Coat (3%), Merman's Bangles (2%), Hexerei Cape (3%), for a total of 22%; Maxed ShellV will get you really close to cap, and hqing the shadow coat will max it out.

[RyaWHM]

It seems like you're already leaning towards Yagrush, but I have to ask; would it be for your main or for your second character? If you can get it on your second character, and you two-box it regularly as you mentioned, I'd say that would be the best choice. If it's for your main, it's closer, but I'll still lean towards Yagrush. I really don't see +24s on songs as anything worth the ~90mil it takes even if you have a gjalla already.

(Hi Cyf!)

Sumi, I was thinking the same thing, giving your alt the mythic would be interesting -- I didn't think you played/liked WHM that much.

If you ask me, it's like waffle cones ...

-taking your alt's WHM gear (one scoop) <O
Vs.
-taking your main's WHM gear (two scoops) <OO

...but then you add a half-gallon of orange sherbet to each:

<O[_]
Vs.
<OO[_]

See how the huge brick of sherbet is out of proportion and unbalanced and gonna make a huge mess? That represents the game-breakingly-good boost of course!

----

I guess your BRD has 3 scoops, and adding Mythic would give it sprinkles:

<OOO:

...but I still picture you doing BRD just so you can be the absolute-best!

[Spekkio]

from your comment it sounds like you're rather distressed regarding the blu weapon. from what i hear it's not bad by any measure, unlike some of the other weapons like the blm which is largely outclassed by ele staves or the sam one which is basically a 90m pair of af2 pants from what i'm told (i'm not a sam, if it's actually decent, don't flame me). so what if the sword isn't the best thing in the world? if blu is the one you want to do, well do it. this is about getting a nice toy for you and not anyone else. don't pull it off the table if it's really what you want. it's like i always say to people when they can't decide what to order at the restaurant: flip a coin, then if you wish the coin had landed the other way, you know what you want. it sounds to me like we may have flipped that proverbial coin and you're sorry it didn't come up blu, so maybe that is something to think about. again, we're here to tell you the facts, you decide what's best for you.

[Shinryuu]

(Hi Cyf!)

Sumi, I was thinking the same thing, giving your alt the mythic would be interesting -- I didn't think you played/liked WHM that much.

If you ask me, it's like waffle cones ...

-taking your alt's WHM gear (one scoop) <O
Vs.
-taking your main's WHM gear (two scoops) <OO

...but then you add a half-gallon of orange sherbet to each:

<O[_]
Vs.
<OO[_]

See how the huge brick of sherbet is out of proportion and unbalanced and gonna make a huge mess? That represents the game-breakingly-good boost of course!

----

I guess your BRD has 3 scoops, and adding Mythic would give it sprinkles:

<OOO:

...but I still picture you doing BRD just so you can be the absolute-best!

Oh god yes marry me

[Ultimagi]

As much as I love Blue Mage and think it's the best job in the game for everything, always, ever... How often do I actually hit things with a sword? Almost never. I'm either using an Elemental Staff for Magical Blue Magic or Vertical Cleave or Ifrit's Blade for Cannonball, since I don't have Koggelmander or a Wing Sword +1. It's use is very limited because of the way the job is designed. If you want to have fun with it, soloing and/or lowmanning casually, then maybe it's a good choice for you. If you're looking to improve your performance in endgame, it's not going to help you beyond Dynamis, Limbus, and Einherjar fodder, which is too weak to be worthwhile anyway.

[Sumiko]

@Vigilia: !! <3 Thank you

Yay Rya and Cyf :D! I want ice cream now ;____; ... And sprinkes are yummy...you guys bring up a good point, though... I dunno. I don't mind TwoBoxing every now and then but I can't do it all the time XD Everything would be: "Sumi come BRD + WHM" lol ;___; I'm not sure if my sanity (and eyes) can stand it XD

I guess at this point it really is if the weapon is worth the money I'm going to spend on it as well. I would pick THF, but I'd be kicking myself because it's not that good, and Mandau is better (and for 3 jobs even though 2 ... don't really use it).... DRK is really only fun for Zerg Rush and people tell me Merc Kris and Ridill is the best (I both have)-- etc etc. Most of the other jobs seem to have stuff that's really replaceable by something else.

BLU does seem really fun to solo with, but now that I think about it, with all the events I go to, I barely have time to solo anything anymore. ._.;

Thank you guys again for your input

[Kyte]

They actually DID mention a little while ago that they might increase the total merits per catagory for combat and/or magic merits.