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    Lets say two redmages with top notch gear as listed above, tried to duo Khimaira without GM ect. Do you think it would be possible to get to or below the 35% mark? If successful that far, would it be possible to finish it? Although I dont see 2 RDM eating Fulmination I think they would have a good chance with meds ect

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    Fulm doesn't hit very hard at all when compared to something like spike flail or full damage breath and can be reduced to laughable damage with good gear and a 410 stoneskin (expected if you're talking about 2 very well geared rdms). The major problem comes from the paralyze, ever time you bio it just make sure 1 of the rdms is outside AoE range so he can jump back in a take hate until the other rdm gets a remedy off.

    Tourb is likely to do a lot more damage if you get caught with shadows down and dreadstorm is not quite as damaging as fulm but terror can be a pain (although it doesn't last long).

    It would definately be possible and there is room for error (1 rdm dying or having to go perform bodily functions/rehydrate as you would likely need to in the 5hrs~ it would probably take).

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    Does poison land on khim?

    Is it possible to avoid getting hit at all (shadows or otherwise) while kiting like that?

    What's the range of fossilizing breath? Possible to avoid while kiting?

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    Poison does land, but good luck landing it consistantly. He resists most enfeebles pretty consistantly which is why most ls just bring brd/blm to stick elegy easily.

    If you really get good at the kiting, you can go Ni/Ni really easily. Its just quickly seeing where you are in relation to Khim and running the opposite direction before he reaches melee range.

    No clue on breath range, never been standing anywhere but right in its face when it uses it on me. Dreadstorm/Tourb are 10 distance, fulm is ridiculously long distance unless you can abuse the terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asdrabael View Post
    Poison does land, but good luck landing it consistantly. He resists most enfeebles pretty consistantly which is why most ls just bring brd/blm to stick elegy easily.
    Higher than base land rate possible?

    If you really get good at the kiting, you can go Ni/Ni really easily. Its just quickly seeing where you are in relation to Khim and running the opposite direction before he reaches melee range.
    Impossible to avoid getting hit after draw in?

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    You can avoid it, which is why this is so easy to do.

    He draws you in a pretty good distance from him, so if you instantly start running the opposite way and avoid any obstacles like a tree or ledges on the ground you can rarely if ever get hit.

    Not sure on the % landrate, since most rdm just spam the spells over and over and over until they land but its pretty comparable to casting on sky gods with spells they're not weak to. You can do it but plan to cast more than once unless you have truly ridiculous gear, and expect pretty short durations. The rdms in my ls are pretty much as well geared as a rdm can get and using full skill vs stat builds have almost identical results so they just spam spells like paralyze/slow in max mind sets.

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    Without poison a solo/duo would be extremely unrealistic, since it'd take over 7~8 hours =/

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    Khimaira does not have TP regen.

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    Sounds pretty similar to Cactrot Rapido, then. Even if Poison II is unreliable(it is against Cactrot, as well), the resistance floor will still allow you to land it sufficiently, and it obviously gives no TP. Beyond that, just stay alive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Sounds pretty similar to Cactrot Rapido, then. Even if Poison II is unreliable(it is against Cactrot, as well), the resistance floor will still allow you to land it sufficiently, and it obviously gives no TP. Beyond that, just stay alive?
    Poison II rarely takes more than two tries to land on Rapido. He builds gradual resistance certainly, but land rate is far from floored. I'm not entirely sure since it's been over six months since I played RDM at Khimaira but I'd expect his resist rate on Poison to be floored, especially considering he's Thunder-based and should therefore be strong to Water.

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    If you are counting 10tp every time khim gets a melee attack in for over 0dmg or you use bio then 2 rdms could easily survive any of khims tp moves realibly (by ensuring only 1 gets hit). As other have mentioned there is a way to abuse his draw in, even without counting on bind, 2 rdms are at the very least going to be able to hold it indefinately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Sounds pretty similar to Cactrot Rapido, then. Even if Poison II is unreliable(it is against Cactrot, as well), the resistance floor will still allow you to land it sufficiently, and it obviously gives no TP. Beyond that, just stay alive?
    Except with good gear you can cap land rate against rapido, and rapido also only has 10k hp, and can be meleed, unlike khim which you not only can't melee, but it has 70k+ hp.

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    Alright, so its going to take significantly longer; what does this have to do with the possibility of a kill?

    If you want to knit-pick, fuck up with Khimaira, and you had better have some damn good reflexes to get back on your feet. Fuck up with Cactrot, and you had better have Reraise up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Alright, so its going to take significantly longer; what does this have to do with the possibility of a kill?

    If you want to knit-pick, fuck up with Khimaira, and you had better have some damn good reflexes to get back on your feet. Fuck up with Cactrot, and you had better have Reraise up.
    Of course, of course. I said unrealistic, not impossible.

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    It is unrealistic to see 2 rdms duo khim entirely through DoT, even another ls gathering and crowding the pop area to block you from kiting would probably cause enough problems to wipe you during the course of a 5-8hr fight.

    It is possible but will almost certainly never happen, it is very realistic and does happen where a solo rdm could hold khim for more than enough time to gather people to kill it.

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    Two talented Red Mages shouldn't need to kite to stay alive to Khimaira. Its way too easy to ping-pong on the job.

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