Post concerning "Tanaka Producer inteview on Latest Famitsu regarding FF11" Interview pg.4

[Plow]

No, SMN still has its own ground landing consistent damage with much less gear requirement than BLM -and- SMN is VERY useful against NMs that can put up physical/magical damage barrier. Don't say BLM and a SAM would also do that job perfectly, because sometimes only 1 person can show up in that event. Yeah, it happens a lot.

Name 1 mob you'd pick a smn over a sam or war for?


Congrats, you just named a mob you'd rather have a blm for.


I'm not saying SMN has no role whatsoever, but one or the other of blm or sam is going to be dramatically more useful in virtually any situation, you don't need both to make up for 1 smn. There's certainly nothing that would require a smn over one of the other 2.

[Tachi]

Have you ever seen a fully merited SMN on Tinnin? Geocrush 5/5 does 950~ dmg every 46 sec, hate free and bypass Magic Shield. On Tyger we have not to fear a TP reset or Tourbillion etc... I parse every mobs like them and certainly a good SMN isn't the last DD on them.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Name 1 mob you'd pick a smn over a sam or war for?


Congrats, you just named a mob you'd rather have a blm for.

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Rather have SMN for Odin, Sarameya, Tyger, Most JoL, Nosferatu, Gulool Ja Ja all i can think of at this point.

[Kaeko]

SMN damage is the only DD source I can think of that does not have to go through a dLVL check (meaning the level of the mob does not affect accuracy and/or damage output). This alone makes it unique and strong given the right situation.

Also, it's a useful tool for limiting mob TP. SMN Burn on Khimaira is extremely common, fast, and pretty much prevents Khim from doing anything. The only reason this stopped being as popular on Tiamat was because Touchdown resets the TP gain so you can TP limit it still using BLMs by only nuking in the air.

I'm sure any number of people can list mobs you want SMNs over BLMs. But beyond this, conceptually, SMN damage is quite unique - no hate, no mob-tp, no level difference check - and therefore should have a place in future mobs as well.

[Zilong]

Rather have SMN for Odin, Sarameya, Tyger, Most JoL, Nosferatu, Gulool Ja Ja all i can think of at this point.

Really now, SMN over SAM on Sarameya?

You are now banned from Sarameya.

[Limlight]

yea, why you aren't tp burning sara in 30-45 seconds is beyond my understanding. Just supersaiyin~

[Shin Volcano]

Really now, SMN over SAM on Sarameya?

You are now banned from Sarameya.

Good luck keeping that SAm alive. as we allknow Gekkos and kasha are all hate free damage and they don't ever feed tp, no sir.

[Fryte]

Personally, if SMN worked like it did in Campaign, it'd make the job pretty sweet.

[Arthars]

Good luck keeping that SAm alive. as we allknow Gekkos and kasha are all hate free damage and they don't ever feed tp, no sir.

i lol-ed. he dont know wtf is sarameya about at all

but its orochi ledeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

gtfo advanced and go back to your standard

Zerging sarameya is advanced. nd if your using SMN for that shit, congrats to your 1000 damage predator claws parse, because thats all you can do. no more because sarameya is dead after 1 BP.

Hell, some people will even think zerging sarameya is "standard". and since i see you dont know wtf it is all about, thinking the SAM will die fast, i dont know where to fit you in.

We should make a "Basic" section just for you, or go pop sarameya and get a fucking clearer picture before you post

[Shin Volcano]

Obiviously you havnt, can you stop stalking me? you got some serious problems kid.

Pretty sure i'v fought seramya more times then you're actual play time.

[Arthars]

Obiviously you havnt, can you stop stalking me? you got some serious problems kid.

Pretty sure i'v fought seramya more times then you're actual play time.

lol

and see you again

have a nice day noob

[Shin Volcano]

Yea...this guy is 100% hopeless, never seen one midly intellegent thing from you, ever, just going to put you on the ignore list as well, have a nice day indeed.

Back on topic.


SMN does well on seramaya, nor does everyone TP burn it, it's just become a neglected job among most others, they DID say new avatars will work diffrently then the current ones, so who knows? Many meele get wasted on it eventually.

[Arthars]

was wondering why your shitty post still appear on my screen

because i added in the wrong name. my bad.

see ya

[eva00r]

I don't care about zerging Sarameya. We always fight Sarameya with 8 people or lower, and SMN is our critical/invaluable resource. I don't think killing Sarameya with 8 people is basic lol. Not every shell has high man power you know.

[Zilong]

or you could change the SMN into something with cure and use SAM somewhere in the main alliance, probably as the cotank to the PLD or something.

But I digress, SAM is really useless on lowman Sarameya, it's completely impossible for anyone to do 6 man Sarameya using SAM in the equation and write about it on their blog. SMN is really superior even though their usage might as well be a two boxed account that occassionally toss para and cure.

[Khamsin]

What ever happened to that "CoP vs. RotZ vs DRK vs WAR vs meat vs sushi" thread?

You can go argue about SAM vs SMN on Serameya over there, instead. And leave the personal attacks out of it.

[Shin Volcano]

or you could change the SMN into something with cure and use SAM somewhere in the main alliance, probably as the cotank to the PLD or something.

But I digress, SAM is really useless on lowman Sarameya, it's completely impossible for anyone to do 6 man Sarameya using SAM in the equation and write about it on their blog. SMN is really superior even though their usage might as well be a two boxed account that occassionally toss para and cure.

What i'm saying is SMN's damage limits the need to cure/paralyna said DD, the smoothest fights i'v had where when SMN was main Damage, with VERY few meele,

People seem to forget the role that SMN is hate free/TP free Damage, and not a 1/4 WHM, sadly that is how they are reduced to leveling, and it will take a miracle for SE to change that said role.

But in all honesty comparing a Mage job that uses pets to a pure DD job dosn't make much sense.

[Seanr]

or you could change the SMN into something with cure and use SAM somewhere in the main alliance, probably as the cotank to the PLD or something.

But I digress, SAM is really useless on lowman Sarameya, it's completely impossible for anyone to do 6 man Sarameya using SAM in the equation and write about it on their blog. SMN is really superior even though their usage might as well be a two boxed account that occassionally toss para and cure.

So I feel like im not bein wooshed... you talkin about this right?

[brisk]

I was about to say, because its been done 6 man using SAM tanks.

[Deemos]

Good luck keeping that SAm alive. as we allknow Gekkos and kasha are all hate free damage and they don't ever feed tp, no sir.

lol