Iminent Danger - North Korea threatens to wipe America off of the globe.

[Kerberoz]

lol I'm not sure about this but doesn't the US,China and maybe Russia too have a missile that can be launched from our nation's base and basically hit any target around the globe?

We have ICBMs that can be launched from the US, enter low orbit, fly over any part of the globe, split into 8 separate 350kT warheads, and drop straight down on top of the target, yes.

[Beckwin]

Is being a fulltime student enough to get out of a draft? When i turn 18 I'll already be in fulltime college sooo

One of the earlier actions in the Bush presidency was to remove exemption for students.

^_^

oh I also believe he signed an agreement with Canada about deporting draft-dodgers.

[Vuitton]

One of the earlier actions in the Bush presidency was to remove exemption for students.

^_^

oh I also believe he signed an agreement with Canada about deporting draft-dodgers.

Hmm, I believe all legistlation introduced to the Senate regarding the draft has failed to pass. However, it is true that there are limitations on students attempting to defer their forced enlistment.

Conscription in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Conscription in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Before and during the Vietnam War, a young man could get a deferment by showing that he was a full-time student making satisfactory progress towards a degree; now deferment only lasts to the end of the semester. If the man is a senior he can defer until the end of the academic year.

Not that I care. I am 26 now, which means I am now immune to any drafts unless legislation is changed. Currently, only men between the ages of 18 and 25 can be conscripted.

Oh, and I am gay. Ha! However, I believe Obama is going to invalidate that as a reason to avoid military enlistment by getting rid of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

[noblemountain]

Hmm, I believe all legistlation introduced to the Senate regarding the draft has failed to pass. However, it is true that there are limitations on students attempting to defer their forced enlistment.

Conscription in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Conscription in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Not that I care. I am 26 now, which means I am now immune to any drafts unless legislation is changed. Currently, only men between the ages of 18 and 25 can be conscripted.

Oh, and I am gay. Ha! However, I believe Obama is going to invalidate that as a reason to avoid military enlistment by getting rid of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all the draft stuff that Bush was trying to push got stalled out. I wouldn't mind seeing an update to the conscription law letting females get drafted as well...I mean, equal rights and all.

[Pirian]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all the draft stuff that Bush was trying to push got stalled out. I wouldn't mind seeing an update to the conscription law letting females get drafted as well...I mean, equal rights and all.

But what about the home-front!?

[noblemountain]

But what about the home-front!?

That's what the militia are for! >.>

[Cephius]

But what about the home-front!?

Homefront is England, Homeland is America, get it right!

[Pirian]

Homefront is England, Homeland is America, get it right!

Touche good man, touche

[Vajra]

North Korean Ship Turning Around

(CBS/AP) The North Korean ship Kang Nam has turned around and is heading back toward the south coast of China, reports CBS News national security correspondent David Martin.

The ship, which left a North Korean port on June 17, is the first vessel monitored under U.N. sanctions that ban the regime from selling arms and weapons-related material.

It is currently in the vicinity of the Parcel Islands 100 miles off Vietnam, Martin reports, adding that there is no specified reason as of now for why it has changed course.

"With still no long range missiles on the launch pads and no time to get them ready for a July 4 launch, it would appear the temperature is being lowered," Martin said of North Korea's threats to launch missiles at Hawaii on the U.S.'s Independence Day.

"If the ship is on its way back, it would mean that Resolution 1874 is taking effect and causing the North to retreat," Kim Tae-woo, vice president of the Korea Institute for Defense Analyses, told the Korea Herald.

The United Nations resolution requires member nations to request permission to inspect the cargo of ships suspected of carrying banned goods.

The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, said on CBS' "Face the Nation" that Washington is "following the progress of that ship very closely." Rice would not say whether the U.S. would confront the Kang Nam.

North Korea has said it would consider any interception of its ships a declaration of war.

On Monday, Myanmar's authorities told the North Korean ambassador they
won't allow the Kang Nam 1 to dock if it is carrying weapons or other banned materials, a Radio Free Asia report said.

Myanmar authorities also told the ambassador last week that they would search the ship if its enters its waters, the U.S. government-funded RFA reported Monday from Washington, citing an unidentified senior diplomat from the Southeast Asian nation.

VICTORY! Seems like with Russia/China/Japan/USA pressuring North Korea, they had no choice but to retreat, now we must free Laura Ling and that other girl, or else they'll be there for the next 12 years...

[kuronosan]

Don't forget the swine flu cure.

[Shenrien]

North Korean Ship Turning Around



VICTORY! Seems like with Russia/China/Japan/USA pressuring North Korea, they had no choice but to retreat, now we must free Laura Ling and that other girl, or else they'll be there for the next 12 years...

that's one small victory in a war that hasn't started yet, lets keep it that way. next stop! Tactical Nuklear Arms that make it look like someone else did it, I say we blame it on the Africans.

[Jodwahh]

Even better blame it on the Somali Pirates. Shiver me nukes me hearties!

[Brill Weave]

I have to say I am seriously shocked that Myanmar refused them. Given past history with their military junta, I can't believe that they seem to have acquiesced to outside pressure. In before more sabre rattling from North Korea over how we interfered with their sovereignty.

[jmc]

Even better blame it on the Somali Pirates. Shiver me nukes me hearties!

I laughed harder than I shuold have. :\

[Kimiko]

If it comes down to a draft in the UK, I'd probably join the royal engineers. And make turret bots. And I'd be smart enough to code in a spy checker, so they couldn't run up and sap my shit!

Isn't that what Pyro's are for? lol

[Kerberoz]

Isn't that what Pyro's are for? lol

Maybe his team only has backburner pyros

[Draggy]

They wont learn lol

North Korea 'test fires missiles'

North Korea has test-fired two short-range missiles off its east coast, a spokesman for South Korea's defence ministry has said.

The spokesman said the surface-to-ship missiles were launched from a base near the port of Wonsan at about 0900 GMT.

Pyongyang had warned shipping to stay out of waters off its east coast.

The UN tightened sanctions against North Korea after it launched several missiles and carried out an underground nuclear test in May.

"One [missile] was fired at 1720 (0820 GMT) and the other at 1800 from Sinsang-ni" near the east coast port city of Wonsan, South Korean defence ministry spokesman Won Tae-jae said.

South Korean media had reported that a missile launch was imminent. Previous North Korean warnings to shipping to avoid its coastal waters have been preludes to test launches.

The latest missile launches came hours after North and South Korean officials ended talks at the joint Kaesong industrial zone in North Korea without progress being made.

South Korean officials said they had rejected a Northern demand, made in earlier meetings, to pay higher wages and increased rent in the factory zone, located just across the border in the North.
Story from BBC NEWS:
BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | North Korea 'test fires missiles'

[Vajra]

Source: BERNAMA - North Korean Rocket Capable Of Hitting Half The U.S: Scientists

North Korean Rocket Capable Of Hitting Half The U.S: Scientists

Spoiler: show

SEOUL, July 1 (Bernama) -- The long-range North Korean rocket, which was launched in April, could be converted into a ballistic missile, that can theoretically hit half the United States with a payload of 1 tonne or more, two U.S. physicists have concluded from their joint study.

Quoting MIT professor Theodore Postol and a physicist at the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) David Wright, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported Wednesday that the rocket could fly even further as of over 10,000 kilometres, if the rocket is turned into a missile.

"The Unha launcher represents a significant advance over North Korea's previous launchers and would have the capability to reach the continental United States with a payload of 1 tonne or more if North Korea modified it for use as a ballistic missile," they said.

"We estimate that it could have a range of 10,000-10,500 kilometers, allowing it to reach Alaska, Hawaii, and roughly half of the lower 48 states," they said in an article posted this week on the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, reports Yonhap.

On April 5, North Korea launched what it claims was a rocket designed to carry a satellite into orbit. The U.S. and its allies say nothing entered orbit, calling the "Unha-2" rocket a disguised form of a ballistic missile capable of flying over 6,700 kilometers.

Noting that a "first-generation plutonium warhead could have a mass of 1,000 kilograms or more," Postol and Wright said the rocket could carry a 1-tonne payload as far as 7,000-7,500 kilometers even if it had only two of its three stages.

"This would allow it to reach Alaska and parts of Hawaii, but not the lower 48 states," they said, writing on the assumption that the rocket was designed to carry a lightweight satellite.

"The mass of the satellite plus the deployment mechanism and the structure that attached the satellite to the third stage may have been about 300 kilograms," they said.

Both the scientists based their analysis partly on the video footage of the rocket launch North Korea released in April, adding computer modeling and past analysis also contributed to their study.

"By measuring the distance the launcher moves as a function of time in these videos, we determined the thrust-to-weight ratio of the Unha vehicle at launch.

"Using estimates of the mass of the Unha launcher, we then estimated the thrust at liftoff generated by the engines," they said.

Drawing similarities between the North Korean rocket and the components previously developed by China, Russia and Iran, the physicists concluded that "it's extremely unlikely that these technologies were indigenously produced by North Korea."

"The third stage appears to be very similar, if not identical, to the upper stage of the Iranian Safir-2 launch vehicle, which placed a small satellite in orbit in February," they said.

Therefore, the Unha-2 appears to use a third stage with liquid rather than solid fuel, unlike the Taeopdong-1 launcher, they wrote.

Postol, whose expertise lies in ballistic missile technologies, teaches science, technology and national security policy at MIT. Wright co-directs the Global Security Program at the UCS.

-- BERNAMA

Interesting, and we're just being told this now o.0!?

Also from US Intelligence & President Lee Sang-hee (of South Korea):
Source: http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07...s-john-mccain/ (bottom of page)

Intelligence sources say the North continues to prepare to test long-range missiles, and work on nuclear weapons continues.

That's what South Korea's defense minister thinks. Lee Sang-hee said Tuesday that North Korea's uranium enrichment program is "moving forward'' despite sanctions and threats from the international community and the little drama with the Kang Nam

Anyways we can enjoy our 4th of July since they don't have any thing on their launch pad yet, (according to spy planes by the U.S.) but they're still cooking up something...

[BRP]

Hey guys, it has been about week. Why am I not dead yet?

[Tomk]

Malaysian National News?