SE being sued.

[Titanss]

lol this sounds like the time that woman sued mcdonalds becuase she burnt herself drinking their hot coffee...

seriously?!

[Balthasar]

http://www.bingegamer.net/wp-content...-objection.jpg


(had to be done)

so did this

Objection!

/oldmemego

[Celeste]

please record the conversation when you tell the lawyer about this travesty

Excuse me?

[Sho]

AV uses purple/red bracers, not normal green ones

Glad it's not my picture then! Was a cool shot tho! X_X

[Titanss]

you said this..

I'd love to get in on this lawsuit..

then I said that.

[LinktheDeme]

The way their approaching the case they're sure to fail if those are there main points of arguement as most of them are disproven. The only thing they have a case on is that they double charged MANY people and refused to compensate. In fact they banned you if you chargebacked one of em thats where the case lies and thats where they'd have to make a huge payment. I have a feeling that they double charged everyone an extra month for money one time, quite a few times, or something along that lines. If they approach it like that rather than lets add irrelevant shit to our list to make it look like this is more serious but have those disproven immediately and have our case thrown out then SE might have to pay a substantial law suit as well as a credit to EVERYONEs account for all double charges.

[Seraphus]

If it actually makes it to court, I can't wait to see Sage Sundi say "Wut" while he's under oath on the court stand.

But in all reality; if ya'll actually think this is going to reach the courts, you are fucking stupid and obviously have no relative knowledge about how much SE's lawyers would cost them over this.

SE is going to end up settling (or at least attempting to) out of court for the simple fact that even if they saved themselves having to pay $5,000,000 in damages listed in the court document, it would still cost them even more in lawyers, time, travel, and other misc things just handling this.

[Gergall]

SE is going to end up settling (or at least attempting to) out of court for the simple fact that even if they saved themselves having to pay $5,000,000 in damages listed in the court document, it would still cost them even more in lawyers, time, travel, and other misc things just handling this.

The lawsuit is garbage, I'm sure there is a firm that would take the case for less than $5,000,000...

edit: I should have just posted that "Citation Needed" picture.

[Seraphus]

The lawsuit is garbage, I'm sure there is a firm that would take the case for less than $5,000,000...

edit: I should have just posted that "Citation Needed" picture.

SquareENIX has their own company lawyers for this. And won't hire a firm.

While I will agree that most of this case is unfounded, if they spin it right they might actually be able to accomplish something. The following things are founded, and may actually be able to hold up in court.

*Being permabanned for a simple payment issue.

*False Advertising and Misrepresentation or Hiding of critical information. (Such as some people banned recently not even being allowed to inquire about why they got banned) And if they really want to spin it and drag Absolute Virtue into this, that is the perfect example of this, with SE having said for years that Absolute Virtue could be beaten, everybody was just doing it wrong.

Other things that can be construed as False Advertising and/or Hiding Critical Information as well, from little things such as gear stats' exact effect on character performance, to much bigger things such as SE's GMs not being able to answer fuck-all about fuck-all.

Some of this (not all) could hold up very well in court if it's represented right. Not like it's going to make it that far, because SquareENIX is going to settle this out of court, or at least attempt to. And that's a fact.

[ringthree]

SquareENIX has their own company lawyers for this. And won't hire a firm.

While I will agree that most of this case is unfounded, if they spin it right they might actually be able to accomplish something. The following things are founded, and may actually be able to hold up in court.

*Being permabanned for a simple payment issue.

*False Advertising and Misrepresentation or Hiding of critical information. (Such as some people banned recently not even being allowed to inquire about why they got banned) And if they really want to spin it and drag Absolute Virtue into this, that is the perfect example of this, with SE having said for years that Absolute Virtue could be beaten, everybody was just doing it wrong.

Other things that can be construed as False Advertising and/or Hiding Critical Information as well, from little things such as gear stats' exact effect on character performance, to much bigger things such as SE's GMs not being able to answer fuck-all about fuck-all.

Some of this (not all) could hold up very well in court if it's represented right. Not like it's going to make it that far, because SquareENIX is going to settle this out of court, or at least attempt to. And that's a fact.

Your "standing" are both covered in the documentation you agree to every time to sign into the game.

Not only that, but the suit maintains that SE intentionally engaged in "misconduct" in these situations. Good luck proving that.

This is the internet and the stupidity it can cause at it's worst. We will never hear about this again.

[Gergall]

SquareENIX has their own company lawyers for this. And won't hire a firm.

While I will agree that most of this case is unfounded, if they spin it right they might actually be able to accomplish something. The following things are founded, and may actually be able to hold up in court.

*Being permabanned for a simple payment issue.

*False Advertising and Misrepresentation or Hiding of critical information. (Such as some people banned recently not even being allowed to inquire about why they got banned) And if they really want to spin it and drag Absolute Virtue into this, that is the perfect example of this, with SE having said for years that Absolute Virtue could be beaten, everybody was just doing it wrong.

Other things that can be construed as False Advertising and/or Hiding Critical Information as well, from little things such as gear stats' exact effect on character performance, to much bigger things such as SE's GMs not being able to answer fuck-all about fuck-all.

Some of this (not all) could hold up very well in court if it's represented right. Not like it's going to make it that far, because SquareENIX is going to settle this out of court, or at least attempt to. And that's a fact.

SE doesn't owe you the right to have an account. They can permaban you at any time for any reason, or for no reason at all. They can permaban you for having a name that starts with the letter D, they can permaban all Mithra, they can permaban anyone.

[Gergall]

We will never hear about this again.

IGN seems to have (or feigned) interest in following up.

[Nama]

SE is will try to settle this out of court i think, not just for cost reasons but publicity too. They will probably view this as another PW incident publicity wise and the last thing they want in the news longer then it needs to be, especially with ffXIV coming.

[Kriz]

Whatever happened to that lawsuit against SE about not being able to cancel online from a website or something and that if you uninstalled FFXI/POL you couldn't unsubscribe and all that BS. I recall it led to a law in some flyover state and all the online press was like lulz, FFXI banned in some state.

I'd hate to be a company and have to deal with these frivolous lawsuits from vindictive idiots who don't understand things. If this suit has merit, which it sounds like it doesn't, I'd have higher respect for it. It just looks like someone doesn't want to play by the TOS they agreed to...

[Shirai]

Every single case in the filing is covered by SE in the manual, ToS and even on the god damn box of the game.

There is no case here.

[Acturus]

Whatever happened to that lawsuit against SE about not being able to cancel online from a website or something and that if you uninstalled FFXI/POL you couldn't unsubscribe and all that BS. I recall it led to a law in some flyover state and all the online press was like lulz, FFXI banned in some state.

I'd hate to be a company and have to deal with these frivolous lawsuits from vindictive idiots who don't understand things. If this suit has merit, which it sounds like it doesn't, I'd have higher respect for it. It just looks like someone doesn't want to play by the TOS they agreed to...

That was in Illinois, right? I remember reading when that first broke as news.

[Mandy]

That was in Illinois, right? I remember reading when that first broke as news.

It is Illinois. Not that it changed anything...

[zantes]

I read the file. Without merit IMO.

Person claims that "we" did not know:

1) we had to pay fees to play online (it says that right on the box in 3 places)

2) we were not allowed to play if we had paid late (whoa!!)

3) we had restrictions in our online play in the game (says that on the box and in the TOS)

4) we had penalties and interest for paying late. (I never saw any interest. Maybe the penalty was we couldn't play?)

5) account data would not be accessible if the monthly fees were not paid. (sounds like #2, but they say this as well.)

This is more or less even stupider than the "McDonalds made me fat" lawsuits that are thrown out of court.

If this goes to trial, will the jury say POIDH?

[Acturus]

If this goes to trial, will the jury say POIDH?

No, they'll say, "YOU HAVE TO BREAK HIS REGEN!"

[Reapz]

I remember being double charged once or twice but I didn't think anything of it, till this anyway lol