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  1. #141
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    As a black person..

    I really don't give a shit.

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    People like to think they are underdogs and will claim whatever justifies that. I really don't have the time to sit back and collect welfare while bitching about the white man.

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    ...............................................

    When I first read the title, I thought "ineffective troll, etc." It wasn't until I realized that the author was someone actually worth listening to under normal circumstances that I saw that this topic was serious.

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    I hate these threads, they're worse than the most inane drama threads. I always have a strong feeling to avoid them like the plague, and I tend to until I see someone I usually believe to be reasonable taking a completely uneducated and illogical stance while confusing objectivity with apathy or 'education' with self-righteousness. These topics are almost always a sounding board for every thought that may as well start with "I'm not racist, but..." (either side.) Of course, like every drama thread, no middle ground can be found since all sides are on the defensive; One side objects to attempts to invalidate their deeply held beliefs, whether they're overreacting or not, while the other feels that they're being guilted or are expected to feel sorry for persecution that they have nothing to do with directly (either side). This happens because both sides forget what the argument is about and direct all their criticisms are each other. Also, there can't help but be a lean on one side of the issue depending on what group you're talking to. That's all acceptable, in and of itself, but the arrogance created by popular opinion tends to destroy all objectivity. So, as is my MO, I shall voice my opposition to what appears to be the popular side of the thread, if only for the purpose of creating a counterpoint that otherwise might not exist.


    The basic idea of racism is generalization. Since you based your 'general population' on the handful of obnoxious black people you've heard say the word racist in any context and you seem to think this is a negative point, by definition....That doesn't mean you hate black people, it means you weren't careful in how you wrote the topic...as far as I know, anyway...


    After seeing the trailer, I can honestly say most of it seems to be fine. It wasn't until the firefly with the fucked up teeth and the old black woman slurring that I realized it was RE5 all over again (or maybe more relevant, Pocahontas all over again). No, The Princess and the Frog is not racist in the sense that Disney believes that Black people are inferior to others (at least not consciously). It is a stupid, ham-handed attempt to pander to a group by reinforcing crass, tired stereotypes. It isn't simply the insensitivity of portraying them as such (it is possible for characters to be wacky and still come off as 'black' without such characterization), it's the idea that black people will be attracted to it automatically. THAT'S what bothers me and that's what black people usually mean by 'racist'; 'An incredibly lack of empathy.' There is no other single word that better approximates that feeling. I admit it has become a catch-all, but the only times I hear it used incorrectly is by dumbasses anyway, and you can't use them as an example. It's illegal in these parts.

    "It's just a Disney movie." is a difficult tack, because Disney films USED to mean sweeping epics, even if they've been shit after shit more recently. To be fair though, it doesn't take a great understanding of black culture (if you can call it that ~_~; ) to create something appealing to children that they can identify with as a people.


    I'll end this by revealing something funny. Most normal black people are so afraid of saying the word racist and then become bogged down in accusations of 'pulling the race card' they usually wont say anything in groups where blacks make up less than 60%. The only reason you heard it in that movie theater is because there was anonymity, like an internet message board.

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    I could go farther, like those odd black people who feel the need to assimilate or the Clarance Thomas/Rukus types who disasscociate themselves as much as possible, but most of that is covered in the 'confusing objectivity with apathy' part.

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    Why does that card use blue mana?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SephYuyX View Post
    You're all... testicles and no shaft. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR SHAFT ROBERT!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldbrand View Post
    Why does that card use blue mana?
    to symbolize the water spent QQing about 'racism'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
    to symbolize the water spent QQing about 'racism'
    Teardrops in prison.

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    Racism is ok as long as its funny.

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    I was going to post something about how I, as a black person see black stereotypes portrayed in media but then I saw Kimble's quadraphonic ass-slapping signature and I lost all focus sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistress Stowastiq View Post
    I was going to post something about how I, as a black person see black stereotypes portrayed in media but then I saw Kimble's quadraphonic ass-slapping signature and I lost all focus sorry.
    Are you seriously a black female pro-domme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerios View Post
    That's racist

    [img]http://i44.tinypic.com/2ykgd4x.jpg[img]
    Though the kid in the back looks dumber

    http://www.imagebeast.net/images/kqu...e0e9f2ji5u.gif

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    Racism is Everywhere! :D
    Eeny, meeny, miny, moe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Jocular use of a form of the [Eenie-Meenie] rhyme by a Southwest Airlines flight attendant, encouraging passengers to sit down so the plane could take off, led to a 2003 lawsuit charging the airline with racism. A United States District Court in Kansas City found Southwest not liable in January 2004, a decision that was upheld on appeal.

    Two different versions of the rhyme were attested in court:

    Eeny meeny miny mo
    Please sit down it's time to go

    and

    Eeny meeny miny mo
    Pick a seat, it's time to go

    The passengers in question were Black people and stated that they were humiliated,[because..] controversial alternative versions of the Eenie-Meanie song replace the word tiger with the word nigger, which in the eyes of some has tainted the rhyme entirely, with the lyrics.

    Eenea, meenea, mina, mo,
    Catch a nigger by the toe;
    If he hollers let him go,
    Eenee, Meenee. Mainee, Mo.[1]

    This version was similar to that reported as the most common version among American schoolchildren in 1888.[4] It was used in the chorus of Bert Fitzgibbon's 1906 song "Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo":

    Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo,
    Catch a nigger by hi toe,
    If he won't work then let him go;
    Skidum, skidee, skidoo.
    But when you get money, your little bride
    Will surely find out where you hide,
    So there's the door and when I count four,
    Then out goes you.[5]

    Many people who grew up before the late 1960s are likely to report having heard or grown up with this controversial version of the rhyme. Since then, and especially after the Civil Rights Act of 1964, this variation has become quite rare in the U.S, and later elsewhere, but may still be used in some circles.
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    Eenie meenie miny mo
    you prolly iz racist, bro!

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    Hmmm, yes. A flight attendant clearly ignorant of the rhyme's sordid past uses it in all innocence. Fucking racist bitch.

    If we're going to outlaw everything that you can construe as at one time being racist, we're all just going to have to sit at home mutely, thinking pure thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizango View Post
    Oh and don't ever say shit like "Dude I'm not racist, I have 3 black friends..". If you can count and have memorized the number of friends of a specific ethnicity, then you racist dawg.

    Not directed towards you VW in any fashion, just sayin'.
    Ok so we white folk can't use the friend card, can we use the "I'm not racist I have a black president" card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invictusx View Post
    Ok so we white folk can't use the friend card, can we use the "I'm not racist I have a black president" card?

    Oh I've used that one, I don't see why not tbh.

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    miz is racist

    true story

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    If you want to see black people playing the race card look at politics in Bermuda.
    We've been having protests(with people of all races) every week due to the premier Ewart brown conspiring with the US to bring in those gitmo guys without asking anyone if it was fucking ok in addition to other stupid crap he's been doing for a long time.We have no real problem with them staying here but we kinda would have liked to know about it first and giving them a house and whatnot when there's a housing crisis that's been brewing for YEARS tends to get people agitated too.
    His response to this was that they were protesting because the white people were angry at the loss of white privilege. Is it any wonder that the entire island is pissed off at him MORE now?
    Oh and turning everything into a race issue is his default response to about everything.
    He's said that anyone who disagrees with him gets kicked out the party and he has done so numerous times. Whenever the people he kicked out join the only other main political party on the island he accuses them of being uncle toms working for the white man when at least half of said party probably consists of people he's kicked out. I have to stop talking now because he's been doing so much crap that's been slowly pissing people off and i'd be here for a long time if i tried to list every stupid thing he's done.

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    "I'm not racist, I voted for Obama!"

    Heard that one a few times, lol

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