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  1. #1261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedz View Post
    Honestly, I've used my Hauteclaire so few times since I got it. It's pretty, but it has very limited uses for PLD. I don't understand why do people QQ over gimps having one so much, it's not like it's an awesome sword or anything.
    From what planet you come from? Mars? Moon?
    <Nice to meet you> We're on Heart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howrang View Post
    From what planet you come from? Mars? Moon?
    <Nice to meet you> We're on Heart!
    If you don't need hauteclaire to reliably stay alive, Joyeuse will generate significantly better hate over time. There are very few situations where you need hauteclaire to reliably stay alive, as such, Joyeuse is a better weapon.

  3. #1263
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    Quote Originally Posted by urat View Post
    So much wrong with that, NQ behemoth knives? Those cost more then cobra knife, dancer's ultimate dagger, and its, what, 20K more for the HQ?

    Missing ear slot, eva earring though she may be using the resist for dyna so dunno... What ring is that even?

    Dunno bout AF since most female dancer's like to wear it in town for looks.

    Edit: whoa wait full time? In dyna? For the DD pt? Was she cure bombing a lot cause then af body is totally cool, I rarely ended up taking mine off in jueno cause I had to keep dropping divine waltze.
    You're the last person who should critique DNCs.

    Cobra Knife isn't good, stop it.
    AF Body should not be on except for Waltzes. Weapon Skills are either Etoile Casaque/Mirke Wardecors/Assault Jerkin/Scorpion Harness.
    You don't TP in EVA gear, especially in Dynamis.
    Accuracy/Haste gear is hard.
    Just, stop.

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

  4. #1264
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    If you don't need hauteclaire to reliably stay alive, Joyeuse will generate significantly better hate over time. There are very few situations where you need hauteclaire to reliably stay alive, as such, Joyeuse is a better weapon.
    This.

    It's a nice sword, it has it's uses, but it's generally highly overrated, probably because it can be a bitch to get, and that automatically makes it best in some peoples minds.

  5. #1265
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howrang View Post
    From what planet you come from? Mars? Moon?
    <Nice to meet you> We're on Heart!
    Way to look like an ass... He's right. Hauteclaire has been town gear since it was introduced to the game.

  6. #1266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    Way to look like an ass... He's right. Hauteclaire has been town gear since it was introduced to the game.
    So if it's town gear only, would you be for the idea that PLD and DRK share equal priority when it comes to lotting? Cause, if it's only use is town gear, then both jobs should be able to lot right?

  7. #1267
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jutubyaa View Post
    So if it's town gear only, would you be for the idea that PLD and DRK share equal priority when it comes to lotting? Cause, if it's only use is town gear, then both jobs should be able to lot right?
    rofl so true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    People are too idiotic these days to assume otherwise unfortunately.
    trolled by an expert~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jutubyaa View Post
    So if it's town gear only, would you be for the idea that PLD and DRK share equal priority when it comes to lotting? Cause, if it's only use is town gear, then both jobs should be able to lot right?
    That's perfectly fine. You won't get any complaints out of me.

  10. #1270
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    The best use for my Hauteclaire is for whenever I dlvl my Octave DRK and I need a weapon for campaign to regain 72. Other than that, town gear and Ixion only for me (solo sandworm Serket tanking perhaps, or for the last 25% of sandworm KA too).

    Quote Originally Posted by Howrang
    From what planet you come from? Mars? Moon?
    <Nice to meet you> We're on Heart!
    Idk what shit is like in Mars or in the Moon, but in Vana'diel Joyeuse wipes its ass with Hauteclaire, occasionally even twice.

  11. #1271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedz View Post
    The best use for my Hauteclaire is for whenever I dlvl my Octave DRK and I need a weapon for campaign to regain 72. Other than that, town gear and Ixion only for me (solo sandworm Serket tanking perhaps, or for the last 25% of sandworm KA too).



    Idk what shit is like in Mars or in the Moon, but in Vana'diel Joyeuse wipes its ass with Hauteclaire, occasionally even twice.
    Maybe im just jealous because i dont have haut, but this sounds about right,
    But only if you have atonement. But you arent a pld now a days without it.

  12. #1272
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    Found this guy campin Serket
    http://i30.tinypic.com/vhpcj.png

  13. #1273
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    point for point dex will ALWAYS beat strength for SAed mercy stroke and agi will ALWAYS beat it for TA, as DE is a better freestyle WS there's not all too much point in even owning a STR set, much less using it
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    fstr is equal to a ~25% mod and caps, while the DEX mod is uncapped.. the 2.5 attack isn't going to push it ahead either, sry
    hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    You would be right about str beating dex on mercy stroke if it had no str mod. But with a 60% str mod and 3x Damage Multiplier, you would need at least 1.5 dex to beat 1 str and thats assuming your fstr is capped as well.

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    Gonna have to argue against ya here too Thorny

    DEX and AGI added from SA and TA do not benefit from fTP so since Mercy Stroke has 3.0 fTP, +1fSTR/WSC is basically equal to 3 DEX. Since STR is effectively adding to both fSTR and WSC (at a very rapid rate to both), it'll take a lot of DEX to beat out the STR.

  15. #1275
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    http://i28.tinypic.com/213ivdv.png nope not macro lag used them the whole run. Even asked him to take them off and simply wear nothing to do more dmg, no reply.

    Edit: Evasion torque

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    IT SLOW THE MOB I HIT

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    but i got gear w/ haste to counteract the gear with slow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Found this guy campin Serket
    http://i30.tinypic.com/vhpcj.png
    I bet they claimed it and took 29minutes to kill it with 300 close calls.

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    This Winner in my merit pt :<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ticko View Post
    This Winner in my merit pt :<
    holy shit people still have these rings?

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