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[Hyan]

Hyan, why do waste so much energy on your crusade to convince the world that "western developper" are at fault. If you had half a brain, you would realize the current markets suffer from multiples issues ranging from over-saturation to plain bad games.

And this revelation changes my point... how exactly? You can paint it however you like, the western mmo development is in a pathetic state.

[Kaylia]

Your point suffer from the same kind of tunnel visions that is present in all your post. You insist that it's "western developments" fault, but the issue is somewhere else.

the way western devs create MMO's is shit

Asian's mmo don't know much more success around here these days. The only reason why some of the smallest one manage to survive is because of the extremely low development cost (and usually because of the f2p/soloable nature of these games).

[Hyan]

Are they not successful if they don't do well in the only continent that Matters? As far as I'm aware, they're not doing too badly on their home markets. It seems to work for them.

West on the other hand can't even manage to appeal to their home audience. Not to mention Asia.

[Kaylia]

Because succesful Korean's game should be the benchmark for good games.

[Hyan]

I still don't see where you're going with this. Korean games enjoy commercial success in korea and asia. The way they develop games is obviously not shit since it seems to work.

West on the other hand is the one with trouble making games people like to play.

[Meko]

Why do you think the western devs fail? I don't understand.

[Siatdiat]

Why do you think the western devs fail? I don't understand.

You're mistake is paying any attention to Hyan. I thought it was clear by now that he just trolls people.

[Kaylia]

Hyan isnt trolling, you're giving him far too much credit.

I still don't see where you're going with this. Korean games enjoy commercial success in korea and asia. The way they develop games is obviously not shit since it seems to work.

West on the other hand is the one with trouble making games people like to play.

If low development cost games with ton of solo grinding is the way to go, the solution is in the opposite direction of what you're usually asking for.


Not that I think this is the solution.

[Alderaan]

There's no way asian mmo's are successful in the east mostly due to art style and the emphasis on PVP. Nah.

It must be the awesome attention they put on content.

While i agree that western MMO's have horrible art styles and bland textures, let's not get crazy. All you have to do is make some pretty anime characters and toss on a frilly cute dress with an adorable sidekick pet and the asians will eat that shit up, along with the westerners that think they're "asian". Don't get me wrong, i love that shit too, but at least i understand that east lacks in content while west lacks in art.

[Hyan]

If low development cost games with ton of solo grinding is the way to go, the solution is in the opposite direction of what you're usually asking for.


Not that I think this is the solution.

I'm not offering any solutions. I'm simply stating how it is.

You are adorable, siat.

[Shuichi]

Don't get me wrong, i love that shit too, but at least i understand that east lacks in content while west lacks in art.

If someone can combine east art direction and style with west gameplay and content we might have something interesting on our hands. After going through just about every MMO since FFXI, I will be the first to admit that I prefer east art style.

[Kuya]

I still don't understand what hyan is saying.

[Kaylia]

I'm not offering any solutions. I'm simply stating how it is.

You are adorable, siat.

Do you know what correlation is? The statement you made has none or very little.

[Corrderio]

If someone can combine east art direction and style with west gameplay and content we might have something interesting on our hands. After going through just about every MMO since FFXI, I will be the first to admit that I prefer east art style.

This would be one hell of an interesting experiment.

[Alderaan]

If someone can combine east art direction and style with west gameplay and content we might have something interesting on our hands. After going through just about every MMO since FFXI, I will be the first to admit that I prefer east art style.

I've been asking for something like that for years and fully expected XIV to be that, which is why i'm so annoyed at SE.

[Kaelan?]

Fuck that, almost of the interesting content I've actually seen/played came from asian MMOs. Games like Drift City, PSO, DFO, Vindictus, Granado Espada, lolFFXI all were tons of fun to play in their peak and had something or were doing something that nobody else was doing, and it was working. The only western MMOs I've ever gotten that feeling from were D&D Online when it came out and, to a lesser extent, Vanguard (mostly thanks to the crafting system, though I love the way they implemented the Bard class).

If I could get Vanguard crafting, korean art, D&D quests/environment interaction and vindictus/GE interesting gameplay, that'd be something to play.

[Lucavi]

Are we talking about success based on revenue or critical acclaim? I'm pretty sure there's a "Western" MMO that shits all over the entirety of anything Asia has put out - ever -, if we're going based on revenue, and a case could be made for it even on critical acclaim.

Not that I'm willing to feed Hyan's trolling hunger to make a case for it. I'm just surprised the mods haven't jumped back into purging this thread since its woefully off-topic of actual XIV news (because there never is any).

[Lucavi]

Edit: Daily double.

[Draylo]

Hyan is an annoying troll, I guess people are so bored in this section that they love to feed him.

[Kurokikaze]

^ pot calling kettle black.