Famitsu - Creating a Monster: Pandemonium Warden

[drwaffles]

And the award for most useless post in this topic goes to..

You, ironically.

[Cairthenn]

And that is why we are taught to finish our sentences.

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[BRP]

So we've learned is that missions and quests are defined by what Spira says they are (Strangely familiar...); quests in the quest log apparently aren't quests; missions in the log apparently aren't missions either; and players not SE determines what is what; and people use expressions incorrectly and it matters.

I don't know or care how Spira is defining quests and missions, but you have to understand what context I am using them in(at least.) There is no reason why you should separate the rewards given between missions and quests when they are one and the same activity(usually quests within missions.) EDIT: That is literally. Joining the Tenshodo, doing Windurst WotG quest x, etc, is the same as doing Mission Y or to be specific a piece of it. EDIT: And in this case, I am talking about an entire mission-lines, not a specific mission.

How the game separates them is entirely irrelevant to what we are talking about. Stop taking shit out of a context. Once you catch up you will understand this is a baby matter only a baby would struggle with.

[Spira]

So we've learned is that missions and quests are defined by what Spira says they are (Strangely familiar...); quests in the quest log apparently aren't quests; missions in the log apparently aren't missions either; and players not SE determines what is what; and people use expressions incorrectly and it matters.

sums it up pretty well.

[terraflarex]

Stop playing on super nintendo, Narse.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/220/i...0624231149.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/670...0624231426.jpg

Some slightly better pics.

[thetruepandagod]

well the pictures are definitely heartening you aren't gonna tell us how to lock shit 2hrs are you? because being able to lock SV/CS would help my ls personally best we could do was 71% without locking anything

edit: seems like you have 1 drk pt 1 blm pt 1 tank pt and still insist on attempting to throw KC's on AV in an attempt to push it down quickly before it meteors you repeatedly. and of course somehow lock 2hrs apparently.

[Chun Liroy]

KC drk?

[thetruepandagod]

KC drk?

Im pretty sure you can see Wenis. so i don't understand the point of asking this

[Virtuous Saint]

KC drk?

98% of the damage dealt came from BLM, if you were asking if damage was due to KC drks.

[thetruepandagod]

98% of the damage dealt came from BLM, if you were asking if damage was due to KC drks.

I don't care where your damage comes from in all honesty as that is a completely moot point since you should be using at least 1 blm party regardless. The only thing that interests me is how you are supposedly locking 2hrs.

Edit: i also find it extremely hard to believe drks only did 2% of your damage since it looks like Wenis,Tyrone,Brelion,Insoluble are all on drk, even if your drks started to DD a little after 57% like i assume they did i'm pretty sure they are the reason it is 46% shortly after and until i'm given any reason to believe otherwise then i won't.

Edit: but you are obviously reluctant to share something useful it looks like

[Chun Liroy]

I wasn't posting as to ask if there was a KC drk present etc, i was asking why there was one there and what was its use.

[donnie]

please tell me wenis is a bald hume model

and in all SERIOUSNESS, AV is not like PW where you dont camp NMs so that sharing info wouldnt matter, but for AV if related info gets out I dont see it helping anyone since the LSs that have progressed so far into him would get cock blocked by swarm of LSs camping T1 jailers and IXaerns which will limit them to test further methods due to the lack of JoL sets.

[Gtype954]

Yes it affects everything, bracelets give atk boost MAB boost and possibly -physical or just increased DEF. Simple fact is even if everyone knew how to lock 2hrs and were doing it constantly they would all be dying when it gets to bracelets. 2000-2200 unbuffed 10 people hit, where as normal meteor is 1000-1200 10 people hit.

It is incredibly hard when it pulls out bracelets, and the only way to survive is if you have everyone casting in -MDT +MDB and swapping WHM parties. WHM party in range healing tanks swaps with WHM party out of range when meteor is casted. They continue this until it is dead, and this requires an incredible amount of people. It goes from easily handled before bracelets, to unbelievably hard, nearly impossible with bracelets. What I described above is basically only way to handle it with bracelets, and we don't have the people for that, so we are still looking at other things, and we will not give up.

To give you an idea of meteor with bracelets, I was on BLM/RDM at the time, had Shell IV, -24% MDT in gear, +9MDB in gear, 380SS, 116INT, and took 646, 10 targets hit. Normal would have been half that or less. Without those buffs and 10 people hit I would have taken 2000-3000+.

That is very interesting. Seems like SE really wants to make you use every damn 2 hr, and spell in the entire game to beat this guy lol.

You guys do light carol during braclets? (assuming meteor is even light).
Also, Sage Etude. I know its single target only and not AOE which sucks.
I would try Etude on the tanks as well. Braclets mode I would try and get a cor for magus roll too.
Start doing random deperate stuff too that might not seem to make sense, like saline coats and some MDB spells that blue mage can get, whipping out lolcarbuncle to see how much damage he takes from it (I think he would die lol).

I do not know what to say. I would hope SE would not make a mob that can do 2000 damage consistantly. Problem is you have to switch out your good songs for these new MDB songs/buffs. So you would need multiple bards to do that which sounds very damn hard to switch around cors,brds,blus,smns all in 1 party slot.
Keep trying... I see this guy being killed by you by the end of this year once and for all... the correct SE way. Then SE can stfu and put you on their website article.

[thetruepandagod]

I would try Etude on the tanks as well. Braclets mode I would try and get a cor for magus roll too.

The tanks generally survive meteor the rest of the alliance however does not. This is the problem and as of now keeping an army of healers outside of meteor range is the only answer to this problem

whipping out lolcarbuncle to see how much damage he takes from it (I think he would die lol).

Honestly don't think any type of person/pet/summon will help to lessen damage once his meteor is already hitting 10 people.

[Virtuous Saint]

Honestly don't think any type of person/pet/summon will help to lessen damage once his meteor is already hitting 10 people.

He was obviously referring to the fact that Meteor may be light based, and thus Carbuncle would be the prime test subject to see this, however the reality is, it is dark based.

[thetruepandagod]

He was obviously referring to the fact that Meteor may be light based, and thus Carbuncle would be the prime test subject to see this, however the reality is, it is dark based.

Ignoring my other post i take it? I'm still waiting for this ability to lock 2hr's you seem to be capable of.

[Virtuous Saint]

Edit: i also find it extremely hard to believe drks only did 2% of your damage since it looks like Wenis,Tyrone,Brelion,Insoluble are all on drk, even if your drks started to DD a little after 57% like i assume they did i'm pretty sure they are the reason it is 46% shortly after and until i'm given any reason to believe otherwise then i won't.

Well you might find it hard to believe, but you are completely mistaken, and shouldn't assume things. There was 1DRK there, Wenis. Clecan was SAM, Tyrone was BLM, Brelion was BLM, and Insoluble was THF. Clecan and Insoluble were there strictly to create SCs, and they might have dealt 2000damage; Wenis did KC BW for approximately 1500damage, this is due to two facts, one you should know (SE resistance), the other: AV receives damage resistances after 79% and 59%. Wenis's initial attack dealt 98damage, he was full HP, had he gone at 100% his initial attack would have been nearly 200damage.

[Tenjou]

Hey all, just wanted to contribute what I have on Meteor (Comet too). Basically, it's not a problem to give myself every spell in the menu. Unfortunately, it still blocks me from casting the cool ones; it says "A command error occured..."

Nonetheless, the elements of the spells are plainly visible. I attached a pic showing Meteor in the menu, along with its element and "description." So here it is:

http://i43.tinypic.com/nz3vdc.jpg

I guess your bards will have to break out the Dark Carol, if they're doing that. As a brief aside, there's also level II carols in there, maybe they should release those for AV?

[Virtuous Saint]

Ignoring my other post i take it? I'm still waiting for this ability to lock 2hr's you seem to be capable of.

Yes.

[Virtuous Saint]

Hey all, just wanted to contribute what I have on Meteor (Comet too). Basically, it's not a problem to give myself every spell in the menu. Unfortunately, it still blocks me from casting the cool ones; it says "A command error occured..."

Nonetheless, the elements of the spells are plainly visible. I attached a pic showing Meteor in the menu, along with its element and "description." So here it is:

http://i43.tinypic.com/nz3vdc.jpg

I guess your bards will have to break out the Dark Carol, if they're doing that. As a brief aside, there's also level II carols in there, maybe they should release those for AV?

Perfect, thanks. Hopefully people will believe it now.