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    Just means you'll survive the tidal wave of doom that will destroy everything in it's path (just got done watching "Knowing").

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    This is fucking awesome, I mean really fucking awesome. I'm going to read the paper over coffee in the morning. If it's as good as I hope it is I will fucking download it and give it to anyone who asks if it's behind a paywall they can't get through.

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture09304.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/sc...er=rss&emc=rss

    And how fucking cool that they acknowledge the players in the authorship lines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristam View Post
    This is fucking awesome, I mean really fucking awesome. I'm going to read the paper over coffee in the morning. If it's as good as I hope it is I will fucking download it and give it to anyone who asks if it's behind a paywall they can't get through.

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture09304.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/sc...er=rss&emc=rss

    And how fucking cool that they acknowledge the players in the authorship lines?
    Oh wow, thats pretty cool. I got just the person to send this too, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizango View Post
    Oh wow, thats pretty cool. I got just the person to send this too, thanks!
    :D Really awesome article.

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    So thousands of people outperformed a protein folding program? Will a result like this make this sort of work more commong?

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    I hope so, protein folding is a fairly large and important field in biophysics. It looks like top performers in the game weren't even necessarily people with a background in biochemistry or biophysics. So the approaches they took are likely to be interesting. It could become more common in fields where computation time is a huge factor but your answers are mathematically quantifiable.

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    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...html?full=true

    Skynet approaches!

    FOR generations, the Avidians have been cloning themselves quietly in a box. They're not perfect, but most of their mutations go unnoticed. Then something remarkable happens. One steps forward, and that changes everything. Tens of thousands of generations down the line, some of its descendents will evolve memory.
    Avidians are not microbes, or sci-fi alien life forms. They are the digital offspring of Charles Ofria and colleagues at Michigan State University (MSU) in East Lansing. They "live" in a computer world called Avida, and replicate using strings of coded computer instructions instead of DNA. But in many ways they are similar to real life: they compete with each other for resources, replicate, mutate, and evolve. They - or things like them - might eventually evolve to become artificially intelligent life forms.
    Similar to microbes, Avidians take up very little space, have short generation times, and can evolve new traits to out-compete their rivals. Unlike microbes, their evolution can be stopped at any time, reversed, repeated, and the precise sequence of mutations that led to the new trait can be dissected. "They're wonderful evolutionary pets," says Ben Kerr, a biologist at the University of Washington in Seattle.


    It also means you can evolve brains that share structural properties with real brains. For instance, Clune has found that unlike old-school neural networks, brains evolved with HyperNEAT tend to be symmetrical and ordered - like real brains. His analysis of the networks shows this comes from having evolved symmetry and pattern-generating instructions right at the start of the series of instructions.
    To test whether such brains actually perform better, Clune drops them into a virtual robot, which then has to perform a task like running across a flat surface. If the robot performs well, he selects that brain and evolves it further. As with Avidians, evolution involves copying the brain's "genes", and introducing random errors in the process to produce brains with slightly modified connections or instructions.
    Clune's results, presented at the Genetic and Evolutionary Computation Conference in Portland, Oregon, last month, show that symmetrical, organised artificial brains tend to perform better at tasks like running than do non-HyperNEAT brains.
    "Brains that have been evolved with HyperNEAT have millions of connections, yet still perform a task well, and that number could be pushed higher yet," he says. "This is a sea change for the field. Being able to evolve functional brains at this scale allows us to begin pushing the capabilities of artificial neural networks up, and opens up a path to evolving artificial brains that rival their natural counterparts."
    "That is a lofty long-term goal, of course," he adds, "but this technology allows us to start marching towards it."

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KZwj8AiE0U

    Before you laugh at me, keep in mind that I litterally didn't get any sleep at all whatsoever the night before (in fact, I never even went back to the dorms. I was at the science center all night).

    Also, I can never stand still. Even when I'm waiting for the bus or something I pace back and forth. It makes me look like I'm nervous or something but in reality, I just can't stand still ever.

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    Wait, Woozie is black?

    http://memegenerator.net/jackie-chan...ll-of-fuck.jpg

    Seriously though, looks interesting, I take it you actively look forward to more breakthroughs on the quantum computing front?


    P.S. I'm disappointed you didn't end by saying "HUBBLE GOTCHU!"

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    Someone beat me to it. A group did a poster on sunspots on Pegasi. A few weeks ago they did a presentation and ended it that way.

    For now I'm just looking for more solid evidence that quantum systems are always measure synchronized. I have to go to Texas in march to present it, so I'm not thinking long term yet. I'm just trying to get enough done to justify going to Texas to present it.

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    Lookin good playa, that was really well done I think you are just being more self critical because its weird seeing yourself on camera. Trust me, I watched it in its entirety and the pacing and hand movements are natural.

    Awesome man, and keep me posted if you do head to Tx in March. Good job man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    Someone beat me to it. A group did a poster on sunspots on Pegasi. A few weeks ago they did a presentation and ended it that way.
    DAMNATION!

    For now I'm just looking for more solid evidence that quantum systems are always measure synchronized. I have to go to Texas in march to present it, so I'm not thinking long term yet. I'm just trying to get enough done to justify going to Texas to present it.
    Ahhh, trying to make it act like a classically linked system, producing the initial state in a partner after a set period?

    Good luck, sounds like a fucking pain due to the whole "if you check on it beforehand, you can fuck the whole thing up" part... confound you Heisenberg!

    http://www.aip.org/history/heisenber...-LilWerner.jpg

    Woozie is right, you didn't look as weird as you probably thought, it's ALWAYS fucked up seeing yourself on camera, your brain goes "WAIT, I CAN'T BE THERE, I'M HERE!" and messes with you.

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    Yeah. As you seen in the video, the quantum cases look like a classical system..sort of. It's more like a bunch of classical systems superimposed on each other (i.e. the waves inside waves inside waves).

    The only problem is that there shouldn't be a "set period" after which the quantum case looks like the classical case. The system should either not be measure synchronized, ever. Or be measure synchronized immediately. Instead, they start out looking as if they aren't measure synchronized, then eventually look completely synchronized after some tiime period. I'm not sure if this is really what happens or if there's some sort of error in my code. There's a certain equation that tells you when a system should be synchronized, and in that equation, there's always a value of g low enough so that the system can't be synchronized without violating conservation of energy. Somehow, in the quantum case, I'm able to get systems that synchronize even with very small coupling values and without violating conservation of energy. You expect that in quantum mechanics because of tunneling, but the probability of tunneling should get incredibly small for small values of g.

    Edit: LOL that comic is awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KZwj8AiE0U

    Before you laugh at me, keep in mind that I litterally didn't get any sleep at all whatsoever the night before (in fact, I never even went back to the dorms. I was at the science center all night).

    Also, I can never stand still. Even when I'm waiting for the bus or something I pace back and forth. It makes me look like I'm nervous or something but in reality, I just can't stand still ever.
    Woozie dude, you sound exactly how you did over vent lol in demo. Most people don't sound the same, but you sound exactly the same <3

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    lol, well, do I still talk too fast? Everyone on vent said I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    lol, well, do I still talk too fast? Everyone on vent said I did.
    Fast but not fast that I can't understand what you're saying lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post

    [IMG]http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/images/DresdenCodak-LilWerner.jpg[IMG]
    One of my favorite comic panels ever, I have it on my desk at work and as a cover to one of my binders.

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Woozie is right, you didn't look as weird as you probably thought, it's ALWAYS fucked up seeing yourself on camera, your brain goes "WAIT, I CAN'T BE THERE, I'M HERE!" and messes with you.
    I know we all look the same dawg, but dayum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizango View Post
    One of my favorite comic panels ever, I have it on my desk at work and as a cover to one of my binders.



    I know we all look the same dawg, but dayum.
    HOLY SHIT LOL, that happened cause I was thinking "man, I can't see him in front of the chalkboard, wonder if Miz would show up either"... then I typed that.


    As for the low values of g, maybe the universe is tossing you a freebie?

    You know what to do in that case, run with it like a stolen bike!

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    I'm going to make my trip back to the galaxy spot (actually, I found a tall fucking water tower I think I can shoot from this time) and attempt to shoot perseids. Epic photographic failure and going into work with no sleep on friday is expected.

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    I headed out to find a spot, forgot to check that light pollution map, only made out like 4.

    Driving 30 miles out to a green region tomorrow.

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