Large Hardon Collider

[Evensong]

I have a tendency to be late most of the time, so you almost had me believe I missed out on this too, but, this article is kind enough to assure us that http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11...beams_back_up/
"It's important to note, especially for those concerned that the LHC may destroy the world and/or entire universe (...) that beam circulation is not the real deal. The Collider has as yet done no colliding...(etc.)"

December 3 is the next given date!

Here is the link to the Brian Greene and the Elegant Universe channel, this should give you immediate gratification as opposed to waiting to get paid to buy the book, although the book is a excellent read.

Thank you Mizango for the link and for your exhaustive but certainly informative reply! I truly appreciate it and enjoyed it! I remember having seen this quite a long while ago, and I'm glad you gave me the link so I can refresh my memory, as I only remember faint concepts. I'll probably want to give the book a go too, at any rate. I'm also thinking on getting: The universe before the big bang : Cosmology and string theory by Maurizio Gasperini. The abstract implies that it is written in the "for dummies" style, so hopefully customised for me. Also; is Paul Halpern's "Collider" a difficult read?

How do you feel about it?

As I have exam-period coming up and lots of essays already waiting to be handed in (among all this a Calculus exam on the way, which has had me freaked out all semester), I probably won't be able to read these extracurricular books or to be on BG too much, but I'd love to answer your question when I have more time on my hands and after I feel I have gained a little more insight on this topic.

M-Theory is like String Theory +1.
If a string is a 1 dimensional loop, a membrane is n dimensional, so a string is a 1 brane, a sheet is a 2 brane, etc.

Ah, thank you Max and wow at all those links!

[Celeras]

Oh, then I withdraw my anti-climactic...ism. Thought it was done.

[Kuya]

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/LHC-en.html


http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/Cooldown_status.htm Magnet temperatures, they aren't cycling til these are all cooled down.


http://aliceinfo.cern.ch/Collaboration/index.html Quagma studies (Quark-Gluon plasma)


http://atlas.ch/ The Atlas and the CMS are both the "big bang" labs.
http://cms.web.cern.ch/cms/index.html They are using slightly different methods, but both will search for the Higgs, Dark Matter, and extra dimensions.


http://lhcb-public.web.cern.ch/lhcb-public/ Regarding beauty quarks and why we there was a matter/anti-matter imbalance.


http://totem-experiment.web.cern.ch/totem-experiment/ Proton/Proton scattering, and information on the structure of Protons.


http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/LHCf-en.html Cosmic ray studies.

Woozie was right; physicists really don't know how to name things.

[Mizango]

You are very welcome ES!

[Kryssan]

This isn't nuclear related news, but I thought I'd share it.



Anyone remember the Russian Sayano-Shushenskaya dam accident in Siberia that occurred back in August of this year?



Last week they showed the damage analysis and security footage during our training seminars. All I can say is amazing. Watching several thousand tons of a hydro-electric turbine being lifted dozens of feet into the air is awe inspiring. All due to poor maintenance practices at that. Just a reminder of how regardless of the ways we generate electrical power, it really is just a dragon waiting to be unleashed.



If I can manage to get my hands on the seminar/trainer materials they showed us this week I'll post 'em on here, but since I can't take media to/from work I'll probably have to see if I can find a copy of it on the 'net somewhere. Not holding my breath, but I wish I could show you. The security footage from the plant is really just incredible. When you see it compared to computer analysis side by side of how the failures occurred that led to the catastrophic event, it really puts into perspective how one minor detail someone forgot/ignored snowballs as everyone else allows it to be overlooked.

[Mizango]

Please do, I'd love to check that out. I remember reading about the dam mishap online when it happened so I am crossing my fingers that you can somehow get your hands on it somehow.

[Max™]

The dragons reminds me of the quote I referenced earlier when mentioning the LHC being on to Shokox in game.

"Yes, it is possible it could produce a black hole that might devour the Earth...

...it is also possible it could begin vomiting dragons. Anything is possible technically, but certain outcomes are significantly more likely than others."

[Conformity]

The dragons reminds me of the quote I referenced earlier when mentioning the LHC being on to Shokox in game.

"Yes, it is possible it could produce a black hole that might devour the Earth...

...it is also possible it could begin vomiting dragons. Anything is possible technically, but certain outcomes are significantly more likely than others."

stop posting

[Max™]

How helpful a contribution to the discussion in general, particularly the topic at hand, do you have anything else with substance to add?

[Boyiee]

Your Mom

inc

[Psion]

It's ok max, i thought your dragonshitting comment was awesome.

[Max™]

Wasn't mine, I can't find the quote, was from one of the guys working there when the black hole scare shit came up.

[Jer]

I'm sure it's not the only place, but linky.

Dr. Arkani-Hamed said concerning worries about the death of the Earth or universe, “Neither has any merit.” He pointed out that because of the dice-throwing nature of quantum physics, there was some probability of almost anything happening. There is some minuscule probability, he said, “the Large Hadron Collider might make dragons that might eat us up.”

[Max™]

Think that's another person repeating the idea, cause it's just a great image.

I just loved the quote "yeah, and it might start vomiting dragons" myself.

[Jer]

Damn, and I thought that was it. Yea, it's understandable about the quote though. I would have used to put some people at ease who were worried, but I think they might have started to prepare for a dragon attack. I remember last year whenever the news got around to devoting an hour or so long piece on the 'dangers of the LHC', my parents called me at work scared out of their fucking minds. Of course, these are the same people who also shit themselves at the thought of Y2k, and then were massively disappointed when nothing happened.

[Woozie]

but I think they might have started too prepare for a dragon attack.

That's what I did. I have a castle and a moat and hired some knights. I'm not about get eaten by dragons just because some idiots in Europe thought it was a good idea to build a machine that could destroy the world.

[Mizango]

How helpful a contribution to the discussion in general, particularly the topic at hand, do you have anything else with substance to add?

He never does, he's a waste of space.

[Sho]

stop posting

stfu

[Kryssan]

Wow, I can't believe you would falter to his banter so easily. Admiral Ackbar would be quite proud of Conformity right now, if he had actually existed. Why don't we all don some lapel pins whilst we're at it and have a West vs East Side 'conference'.



BTW, between his post and the current Google ads for this thread, I can't seem to stop smirking.


http://www.aethernavale.net/Media/images/lhcthread.JPG


At any rate, it doesn't seem like I'll be able to get those materials from the net. All my searching has managed to come up with are the news stories about the event, not the actual analysis. I will see if maybe I can get permission to obtain the data from work when I go back because I don't remember it being under clearance, and it was definitely worth the read.

[Mizango]

Well thanks for trying.