Whats Better? II

[astura]

HQ mantle + rostrum pumps and loq earring is 13+2+2=17 (might be off earring/feet) so -17% of cast time with minstrels ring active thats 17+25 or -42% off song casts. Buffing shiar nq/hq and yigit better for precast (reducing casting time) and the best for midcast (if you use spellcast to switch) is minstals coat for windbase buffs. Compared to errant or kirin osode its only 2 more mnd/chr at the cost of -enm. Overall its meh main selling point would be a lazy brd set up to catch almost everything you do but not as well as swapping bodys around. for debuffs though only thing that could be considered equal or better would be shadow coat imo.

[Vodou]

Fumas are ALWAYS better than Dune Boots.

Not really....

If you have kick attack merits, kick attack pants and ultra low haste, dunes will win. I do agree that would be unusual / not preferable, but still its not always. Mnks who are new to 75, don't have access to sky gear /BB items or usu feet, will sometimes find themselves soloing or low manning things. Dunes will sometimes be better.

[BerenTebogo]

Not really....

If you have kick attack merits, kick attack pants and ultra low haste, dunes will win. I do agree that would be unusual / not preferable, but still its not always. Mnks who are new to 75, don't have access to sky gear /BB items or usu feet, will sometimes find themselves soloing or low manning things. Dunes will sometimes be better.

It's already been tested and proven that, no, dune's are never better. Ever.

[Cream Soda]

It's already been tested and proven that, no, dune's are never better. Ever.

When tp'ing in footwork? huh huh huh??!?!?! wheres the big bad sath now!!!!!

[Alastaire]

Blade: Jin - Usukane sune-ate, Denali Gamashes or Rutter Sabatons? Thanks

[Wolfknight]

Blade: Jin - Usukane sune-ate, Denali Gamashes or Rutter Sabatons? Thanks

I'd think Denali would be best overall, but I am not a ninja to say for sure.

[Mumble]

So should I just use dune boots when I use Footwork+Dragon Kick? Or am I just retarded

[Vodou]

It's already been tested and proven that, no, dune's are never better. Ever.

A) the thread that I saw regarding this used destroyers and a fully merited mnk with 8% haste as the "base" reference point. Was that a reasonable base point to select? I can't disagree, but it was still favorable to fumas since it moved overall damge from the feet to the hands. A mnk with no merits in H2H and a weapon with lower base damage would have a larger gain from using dunes since more of his damage was coming from the feet. A mnk with less than 8% haste would see a smaller gain from fumas.

B) as pointed out already, this ignores footwork

If we want to say fumas beats dunes in 100% of the normal and expected situations, then that's fine. If we want to say that a reasonably geared mnk would get more from fumas then dunes 100%, that would also be correct. If we want to say that a mnk with no h2h merits and a very low damage wepaon with a reasonable amount of haste (18%) will still do better with fumas 100% of the time, also fine.

I was not trying to re-open this debate, just was being technical.

[FailureMidgard]

A) the thread that I saw regarding this used destroyers and a fully merited mnk with 8% haste as the "base" reference point. Was that a reasonable base point to select? I can't disagree, but it was still favorable to fumas since it moved overall damge from the feet to the hands. A mnk with no merits in H2H and a weapon with lower base damage would have a larger gain from using dunes since more of his damage was coming from the feet. A mnk with less than 8% haste would see a smaller gain from fumas.

B) as pointed out already, this ignores footwork

If we want to say fumas beats dunes in 100% of the normal and expected situations, then that's fine. If we want to say that a reasonably geared mnk would get more from fumas then dunes 100%, that would also be correct. If we want to say that a mnk with no h2h merits and a very low damage wepaon with a reasonable amount of haste (18%) will still do better with fumas 100% of the time, also fine.

I was not trying to re-open this debate, just was being technical.

Next off, we can discuss optimization of gear for pld/nin based on not having Utsusemi: Ni.

[Darlantan]

Next off, we can discuss optimization of gear for pld/nin based on not having Utsusemi: Ni.

Only if :Ichi overwrites itself.

[seiji]

It's already been tested and proven that, no, dune's are never better. Ever.

hundred fist?

[Lionsheartt]

Not 100% sure if this belongs here buttt thought I'd ask, which would be better Rajas or Sattva? I currently am PLD main and have Aegis yet with everything being atonement builds I feel that I could just buy a Mermaid to macro in for enmity. I have WAR DRK THF to 75 also and I love those jobs which has made me think about getting Rajas. Wondering if any other PLDs out there have an opinion on this.

[Kidnoftle]

Not 100% sure if this belongs here buttt thought I'd ask, which would be better Rajas or Sattva? I currently am PLD main and have Aegis yet with everything being atonement builds I feel that I could just buy a Mermaid to macro in for enmity. I have WAR DRK THF to 75 also and I love those jobs which has made me think about getting Rajas. Wondering if any other PLDs out there have an opinion on this.

Get Rajas imo. I'm a pld main as well and I have never once thought about trading in Rajas for sattva. The only reason I would ever choose Sattva would be if I knew I was never going to level a melee job. The extra 1 emn over mermaid's (other ring being Hercules) isn't exactly game breaking. I guess if you were using it in an HP swap it would be beneficial but not to the point where it outweighs the benefits that Rajas gives to almost all melee jobs.

Just my 2cents.

[Lionsheartt]

Yeah that's pretty much how I feel about it, I've always been PLD main and just feel akward tossing it but I have so many DD jobs and another probably coming up soon that Rajas is such a better choice I think. Too bad I have to wait a damn month for it though.

[Blackbrock]

Yeah that's pretty much how I feel about it, I've always been PLD main and just feel akward tossing it but I have so many DD jobs and another probably coming up soon that Rajas is such a better choice I think. Too bad I have to wait a damn month for it though.

this has been done to death, get rajas.
and don't come back to this page so that you don't see the flames.

[Lionsheartt]

I couldn't careless about being flamed lol, I haven't seen the threads or where it may have been discussed so I apologize for a redundant question. I had a question and wanted input, if I get flamed for it then whatever. I got a helpful answer so I'm happy.

[Silversonic_11]

For MNK Asuran, DK, Howling, and Ascectic's feet equipment:

Denali or Usukane? (Or other)

Also, the same question for Blade: Jin.

[Cream Soda]

Asuran usu, rest denali. Idk for nin but I'd assume denali

[Fridell]

Usu boots for Jin, AND Denali, different macroes.

[Arximiro]

Usu for Jin are Epic. Denali are decent also, but I stick to Usu.