Whats Better? II

[TybudX]

This is largely an opinion issue. I don't normally deal with that WS but looking at it from a theoretical perspective, I would try to stack a lot of DEX (accuracy for multihit + critical hits are a twofold return). I know a lot of people prefer STR though... only slots this really comes up in are the ring(s), legs (Hachiryu vs Byakko's) and earrings to my knowledge though.

Cuchulain's Belt is awesome for RR, if you don't need the accuracy from Warrior's Stone. Most people WS in Warwolf anyways, and I'd use Cuchulain's over that for RR.

[mdkuser]

I'd say
Hachiryu Kote > AF +1 > B kote >= N kote/Usu gote[depending on your acc] >= O kote. if you're uncapped acc N kote/Usu gote is best but if capped then att gloves.

Nkote first, because when your first hit misses your 5-hit is broken. imo.

[Callisto]

Nkote first, because when your first hit misses your 5-hit is broken. imo.

Hachiryu will have better acc plus DEX for Penta mods, unless you just meant N.Kote vs. the rest of the non-Hachiryu.

[circa]

8vit:
WSC: (8 * 0.5 * 0.83) = +3(.32)

7str:
fSTR: +1.75
WSC: (7 * 0.2 * 0.83) = +0 (floor after each multiplication).

This is VERY rough though since WSC in particular depends on your STR and VIT before and "after". Could you give STR and VIT without either Maat's or Kabuto?

I'm at work, but I'm pretty sure my ws set brings me to:

68+38 STR
72+17 VIT
(Hume without headgear)

Thanks!

[Yugl]

Assuming drakebane and you hit +2 hits w/aurum on during it your fine though, for birds would be a problem though. Could macro Chiv Chain+euphoria ring[or white tathulm] for after getting feather tickle though.

With Thalasso, you can drop Aurum on Jumps/WS to use Zahaks for more DMG and maintain the 6-Hit Build.

[mdkuser]

Hachiryu will have better acc plus DEX for Penta mods, unless you just meant N.Kote vs. the rest of the non-Hachiryu.

true forgot about that.

[Raen Ryong]

I'm at work, but I'm pretty sure my ws set brings me to:

68+38 STR
72+17 VIT
(Hume without headgear)

Thanks!

So Maat's is

STR 68 + 38 + 7
VIT 72 + 17 + 7

And Genbucket is

STR 68 + 38
VIT 72 + 17 + 15

right?

Maat's:
STR113
VIT96
WSC: [(113 * 0.2 + 96 * 0.5) * 0.83] = 58
Relative fSTR + 1.75 (this means +1 25% of the time and +2 75% of the time, not literally +1.75).
Total: 59.75

Genbucket:
STR106
VIT104
WSC: [(106 * 0.2 + 104 * 0.5) * 0.83] = 60
Total: 60

Basically, 75% of the time they will be roughly equal with Maat's being SLIGHTLY better due to Attack gains from the 7STR difference. 25% of the time, Genbucket will be better. This all assumes fSTR is not capped.

[japetus]

Trying to prioritise ampoules items as I'm over halfway to my second (first was Morgana's choker)...

I suppose I'm wondering about 4 Macc (Balrahns) v 5 INT/MND (Snow or Aqua) v 3 Macc+3 INT/MND (Omega) for enfeebling and resist sets.

Similar question for me, except I don't have the Choker and I don't plan on getting anymore ampoules for a long time, if ever.

BLM, RDM, PLD

Omega - macc +1-2 over Balrahn's/Aqua/Snow, inv+1 (don't really see myself selling either)
Morgana's - inv -1 for HP latent, nice convert/max MP piece, nice cure-cheat piece for PLD

I've kind of ruled out Ritter for now, but I could be swayed.

[ryuke_xi]

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Looking for advice for Drakesbane, mainly feet. I know a Cuchulaine's mantle would be a large improvement but I just don't have the means of getting one at the moment. Besides Cuchulaine's, what can I improve?

Belt is Warwolf. Neck is Flame Gorget, Ring is Iota, Ears are Supremacy/Brutal, Polearm is Skystrider with a Pole Grip. ACP Body is made 3crit and 10accuracy.

I guess Iota is only giving me 4acc? Is it worth switching to an NQ Sniper's?

[Yugl]

Askar Helm
Flame Ring
Ares/Heca Legs
Heca Feet

[Skie]

usu body or nin af+1 for tp build in merpo

[Cream Soda]

Would depend on your current hit rate I'd presume, but I don't see where usu body would beat out haub+1 for tp'ing in the cases you aren't using af body.

Usu body is 16 acc (w/ dex)
Haub+1 is 15 acc w/ dex
Usu body 8 str 4 attack
Haub+1 6 str 15 attack
So rly comes down to 6 stp 2 str 1 acc vs 11 attack

[PeaceNLove]

Nkote first, because when your first hit misses your 5-hit is broken. imo.

Don't first hits of multi-hit WSs share the same large accuracy bonus as 1-hit WSs? This should be a moot point.

[Rugazanami]

What's better for THF TP gear: Homam Pants or Skadi Pants?

I have Enkidu body and Homam hands and feet.

[tonystigma]

5 Attack and Store TP+7 and 1 acc vs 1% Haste.

Well, and Fast Cast, but you can just macro in Homam for casting. Go with Skadi.

[Argettio]

Similar question for me, except I don't have the Choker and I don't plan on getting anymore ampoules for a long time, if ever.

BLM, RDM, PLD

Omega - macc +1-2 over Balrahn's/Aqua/Snow, inv+1 (don't really see myself selling either)
Morgana's - inv -1 for HP latent, nice convert/max MP piece, nice cure-cheat piece for PLD

I've kind of ruled out Ritter for now, but I could be swayed.

Balrahn's + Omega is the most accurate combo of rings you can get. For dark and enfeebling magic (static effect) this is about the best you can do.

But it isn't that much of an improvement over Balrahn's + Snow, and like you said you aren't going to sell your snow ring if you get omega.

Morgana's can be used on all 3 jobs and is miles ahead of the any other neck piece of forcing latents/cure cheats (next best is 15HP->MP iirc).

So logically you should get the choker.

[Wolfknight]

With Thalasso, you can drop Aurum on Jumps/WS to use Zahaks for more DMG and maintain the 6-Hit Build.

jumps yes, but for zahak vs Aurum for drakesbane, is still needed testing.

[mdkuser]

What's better for THF TP gear: Homam Pants or Skadi Pants?

I have Enkidu body and Homam hands and feet.

depends on your dagger combo. for X/Blau, rajas is not enough to get 5.0 so I need skadi full time ( I use rajas as well). Need to do maths for every dagger combos. but for faster daggers like BD/sirocco, the TP/hit is so low that skadi legs are most likely the best too. for Body you should alwys use rapparee harness.

[Ultimagi]

Balrahn's + Omega is the most accurate combo of rings you can get. For dark and enfeebling magic (static effect) this is about the best you can do.

But it isn't that much of an improvement over Balrahn's + Snow, and like you said you aren't going to sell your snow ring if you get omega.

Morgana's can be used on all 3 jobs and is miles ahead of the any other neck piece of forcing latents/cure cheats (next best is 15HP->MP iirc).

So logically you should get the choker.

Omega and Snow rings for nuking HNMs.

[circa]

Maat's:
STR113
VIT96
WSC: [(113 * 0.2 + 96 * 0.5) * 0.83] = 58
Relative fSTR + 1.75 (this means +1 25% of the time and +2 75% of the time, not literally +1.75).
Total: 59.75

Genbucket:
STR106
VIT104
WSC: [(106 * 0.2 + 104 * 0.5) * 0.83] = 60
Total: 60

Basically, 75% of the time they will be roughly equal with Maat's being SLIGHTLY better due to Attack gains from the 7STR difference. 25% of the time, Genbucket will be better. This all assumes fSTR is not capped.

Wow, that difference really is marginal. Thanks!