Whats Better? II

[Raen Ryong]

I use Heca for unstacked DE and ACP for all stacked forms of DE. Mandalic/Shark you want to be using Dragon Harness is your cheapest option.

[Shinryuu]

Well, I got to 59 and with checking my current ACC without food/COR buffs I was sitting @92% ACC(at least @59) with that set-up, an I figured anything over 90% ACC is good.

If I sync back to 55 I would, 'cause I was sitting at about 73%. Hmm.

3% more hitrate is still going to be better than Shikaree Aketon's stats, so I'd use AF body unless you get RACC buffs.

[Valyana]

Also the ranged pDIF graph looks very different from melee pDIF; ranged attack makes a large difference to damage.

[Dathus]

Also the ranged pDIF graph looks very different from melee pDIF; ranged attack makes a large difference to damage.

So keeping that in mind, I should stack more R.ATK when my R.ACC is sitting around 85~90%? Or should I focus more on R.ACC?

[PeaceNLove]

You obviously parse if you know your accuracy was at 92%, so just look at your average RA and do the math from there. E.g. if you hit for 100 damage on average at capped accuracy (without the attack pieces), those attack pieces would have to bring your average hit to above 105.56 to do more overall damage at 90% accuracy, or 111.76 at 85% accuracy.

[Dathus]

I was actually using the melee accuracy calculator, and I was doing averaging 100-130 a shot(depending on if I was using Velocity Shot or not), more if I decided to use pot-au-feu or not. I've not gotten around to parsing my parties, mainly due to laziness, and now due to a LACK of invites -.-;

[Shinryuu]

Also the ranged pDIF graph looks very different from melee pDIF; ranged attack makes a large difference to damage.

Ranged PDIF only suffers half the level correction if I recall correctly. This makes ranged attack (compared to normal melee attack) less valuable, not more. For normal melee it already goes that ACC easily beats attack even when it's a relative low amount vs. a relative big amount, so therefore 3% ranged hitrate (from AF body) > Shikaree aketon.

[Silversonic_11]

When Cuchulain's Mantle first came out I was initially told that it wasn't really that useful for SAM. But over time that's changed and I've had about 5 or so people saying that I should use it - But is that for TP only or for WS too (Y/G/K)? Does it vary on a lot of things such as if your accuracy is capped or the mobs you are fighting?

If you need a look at my TP/WS set for Y/G/K it's in Item sets: Silversonic - Fairy - FFXIAH.com

Does the mantle prove useful for MNK and NIN too? (TP and WS)

[Starr]

Above post makes me want to cry

[stewie]

TP in cuchu, ws in smilo+1 for YGK, debatable whether to keep forager's on for yuki, don't really know the math.

[Silversonic_11]

Above post makes me want to cry

What did I do? @.@ (Edit: Right yeh, just realised)

And ok Stewie, I've been told Smilodon +1 is only good for Gekko?

[Seedz]

I use Smilodon +1 for Gekko and Forager's for Kasha/Yuki.

Cuchu is a godsend for both MNK and NIN TP, and for WS it depends on the rest of your gear and buffs.

[mdkuser]

6-hit build with hagun versus 5-hit build pachipachio on non HNMs, and on HNMs?

[Shinryuu]

Hagun

If you need a look at my TP/WS set for Y/G/K it's in Item sets: Silversonic - Fairy - FFXIAH.com

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And yes Cuch's for TP

[Cream Soda]

Honestly, I've only used cuch for bird pts and lurkers. The rest gets covered by pizza

[ringthree]

6-hit build with hagun versus 5-hit build pachipachio on non HNMs, and on HNMs?

I believe the case was Hagun still edges out Pachipachio on birds. It should still be tested in other situations.

[Starr]

Honestly, I've only used cuch for bird pts and lurkers. The rest gets covered by pizza

The rest being?

[Yugl]

The rest being?

Einherjar and Non-Lurker Mamools/Wyverns.

[Killkenny]

The rest being?

Anything that isn't a ground/toau HNM, sky god, jailer of love or odin?

Majority of people, even in the busiest endgame shells spend more time meleeing merit level targets, where they can use pizza/torques/foragers and still cap acc, than HNM level ones.

[mdkuser]

I dont even use cuchulain's mantle on odin, because killing fast isn't the goal on this fight ( stil get ~85%+ ac on SAM).