Optimum Merit Set Up

[Deemos]

We cleared out both bottom and middle birds, and pulled about 5-6 mamool at a time, kills vary from 2sec (all 3 of us had tp) to about 20sec maximum

I know it seemed unreasonable, but all of our parses said the same exp per hour

I second this. But well, Amano plays a good part in that 36k/h, we usually go sam/war (amano) cor/rng(dd ofc) war/sam x2 (pretty good eq both) brd whm; and with this setup we have often to kill wivres but is np now with whm's new stuff. And everyone accordingly to the expwatch said something in the range of 35-36k/h, although when i don't go sam but drk, mnk, or whatever else, kills are much slower.
Also remind to WS after wivre's boiling blood! The cor did 1956 slug the other day lol

[Xanthe]

SAM/WAR
DRG/SAM
DRG/SAM
COR/NIN
BRD/NIN
RDM or WHM

Middle birds, taking top/mid/bottom, no wivres, sam chaos march march, 36k/hr

That was such an awesome party. I wish we could have gone longer. Did you finish /DRG yet?

[Rilu]

For EXP/Hour I tend to favor:

4x BLU
1x RDM
1x G-horn Brd (me)

With the BLU's I go with, if we get the top camp, we have issues with things to pull even when pulling 3-4 birds from the lower level, but our limit chains never end. The BLU's just split up in 2 groups of 2, and then the Rdm and I just hit them with refresh/ballads.

Although, a couple nights ago I was getting 26K/hour (from parser) on birds with:

1x Relic Gun Rng
1x Relic Brd (me)
1x Rdm
1x War
2x Drg

Honestly, by this point, is it REALLY an issue trying to squeeze more out of it? hell ,I capped my exp on Brd in less than 2 hours, and I was under 10K into level. thats just sick, no matter who you are.

[Xanthe]

Although, a couple nights ago I was getting 26K/hour (from parser) on birds with:

Why settle for 26k/hr when you can get 36k/hr+?

[Malacite]

You people and your crazy ass merits...


Why the fuck can't I ever get a party that breaks 15k ...

[Xanthe]

Lol, best part is that was without Corsair's Roll or exp bands. Just imagine 41k/hr with the roll, cap out merits in about 2.5 hours!

[shulula]

I agree with shamaya on the need for a COR to push your exp/hr. I went to the upper Nyzul Camp with a less that optimal setup and pulled 30k+/hr.

73 SAM/WAR
WAR/NIN (Ridill/Adman)
73 SAM/WAR (Dual Box)
73 COR/WHM
BRD/NIN
WHM/SMN (Dual Box)

I was playing sam and whm with the cor and brd pulling. We started with the strongest buffs from the cor and brd but soon realized that we were killing too fast and the drg and bst were not popping their pets. We decided to slow down our kill speed by replacing one of the cor buffs with cor roll for the xp bonus.

Now we had pets to kill which helped with keeping mobs up to kill. If a Lurker is being a pain you can have one DD pull off and finish a wyvern to keep your chain going. You can even keep the DRG slept to have him pop out 2 or 3 wyverns. My SAM and the COR got to 75 while the other SAM was 10k from 75 by the end of the party.

No relics in the party but everyone was a veteran and knew how to keep chains up for maximum exp/hr. Even if that means "wasting" a WS when a mob has 10% HP to kill it in time for the chain. The COR understood the point was exp not their omgwtfpwn 1k WS every 5 mobs and helped out with a heal, dispel, buff, pull and sleep.

[Shamaya]

The cor did 1956 slug the other day lol

I've seen this a lot as well. My friend hits right on 1950 with slug on cor, and has done so multiple times in a row very often. My mercies destroy slugs on colibri but on wivre the slugs destroy me. It feels really glitchy to me to be honest.

And damn, Shulula. That is impressive 73's and /nin o.O, but I know you are not one to exaggerate.

[Valyana]

You can even keep the DRG slept to have him pop out 2 or 3 wyverns.

Uh, no. When I was soloing BLM, I had to zone the DRGs before they would pop new wyverns. I'm not sure if I waited 20 min to see if they would repop then, but you aren't going to keep a mob slept that long.

[Spider-Dan]

Hmmm. I seem to remember fighting a Mamool DRG, killing his wyvern first, then him popping a wyvern before he died.

This would make sense if Call Wyvern has a recast timer for Mamool, and he had already had a wyvern up for a while.

[Ultimagi]

Uh, no. When I was soloing BLM, I had to zone the DRGs before they would pop new wyverns. I'm not sure if I waited 20 min to see if they would repop then, but you aren't going to keep a mob slept that long.

This is true.

[Deimos]

This would make sense if Call Wyvern has a recast timer for Mamool, and he had already had a wyvern up for a while.

Seems to be true, I see a second wyvern get called a lot during the initial clear of MMJ Staging Point in merits, if no other party has been there for a little while.

[Mojo]

That's how I always assumed it works. If the Mamool Ja has been up for more than 15 minutes, then it will be able to re-summon another Wyvern. If not, you need to zone the Mamool Ja so that it repops with timers reset.

[shulula]

I haven't played in over six months and SE could have changed it, but back then DRG mamool only needed TP to call a wyvern. As long as they didn't have one up at the time and they had TP, they could call one.

[Teorem]

I haven't played in over six months and SE could have changed it, but back then DRG mamool only needed TP to call a wyvern. As long as they didn't have one up at the time and they had TP, they could call one.

The ability of a Mamool Ja DRG (or any DRG NPC for that matter) to call a wyvern has never, ever depended on TP. Ever.

It has always been tied to either its Call Wyvern timer or a 2-hour ability (such as in Dynamis).