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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    allow me to react like you;

    fuck you and your study
    Nice come back lol.

    And quoting famous muslim scholars no more supports your theory than me quoting any other famous theist scholar from the past. I already stated it isnt the religious texts of your dogma that discourage education.

    If you base support in Islam off some historical scientists being Islamic, what say you to the countless christian scientists?


    You STILL havent addressed the negative correlation between education/IQ and belief in god. And as stated, america is by far the most religious of the industrialized countries, so these studies would reflect MUCH more in our favor anywhere else. Answer this question, now please.

    Or are you just saying this correlation exists everywhere but islamic countries? One reason I didnt quote polls from Iran is because Im not even sure data from these areas exists for education/belief. When you have a government/education system controlled by religion, Im pretty sure you have less people willing to say they are dissenters.

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    maybe illness could be a harsh word, but i, personally, think its an odd behavior, its not normal.

    sounds a bit better?

    do you respect me now sirrobin? oh please say you do

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    But is not normal ok? You are dancing around your bigotry.

    And yep, you are still ignoring the education/belief correlation studies. How is that going for ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    But is not normal ok? You are dancing around your bigotry.

    And yep, you are still ignoring the education/belief correlation studies. How is that going for ya?
    go throw your shit on someone else, im not ignoring shit, you're ignoring my reply...its based on the U.S only, which means mostly on christians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    maybe illness could be a harsh word, but i, personally, think its an odd behavior, its not normal.

    sounds a bit better?
    Yes, you would be making an accurate statistical observation. There are fewer gay people than heterosexual people.

    But the question is, do you then arrive at value judgments? Is it wrong because it's uncommon? If not, why is it an issue to you at all?

    Also how do you account for other aberrations? With androgen insensitivity syndrome, individuals with XY (male) chromosomes develop fully female bodies because the male hormone has no effect on them. Is it gay for them to have sex with men? Or is it gay if they have sex with women? Or is the penis really the only thing that bothers you?

    How do you deal with people who are asexual and prefer to have no sex at all?

    Considering some of the things you've said in the past I find it hard to believe that you base all of the views you've stated on viewing it as an uncommon behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    maybe illness could be a harsh word, but i, personally, think its an odd behavior, its not normal.

    sounds a bit better?

    do you respect me now sirrobin? oh please say you do
    so "abnormal" behavior should be looked down upon and kicked? ok
    What is normal? It's one of the most subjective terms in language. Normal as in most popular? then it's abnormal. Normal as in natural? homosexuality certainly is natural. Normal as in wanted? I don't think anyone would want to be gay because of bigoted pricks like yourself telling them they are fuckwads and don't deserve equality.

    I don't even know why people want to be "logiced" into accepting homosexuality. It should be perfectly acceptable whether science says its natural, behavioral, for martians, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    go throw your shit on someone else, im not ignoring shit, you're ignoring my reply...its based on the U.S only, which means mostly on christians
    Oh ok, so it is only Christian belief that decreases with education, because Christianity is alot weaker than Islam.

    I must have missed that.

    Kinda odd, those studies showed stastics from belief in ANY god what so ever, and not just christianity.

    Is Islam more true on that side of the planet than it is here? Why is Islam so ineffective against the educated mind in the west, rather than the middle east? Where is your polls/studies/social surveys to back up America being the only country to have this trend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    so "abnormal" behavior should be looked down upon and kicked? ok
    What is normal? It's one of the most subjective terms in language. Normal as in most popular? then it's abnormal. Normal as in natural? homosexuality certainly is natural. Normal as in wanted? I don't think anyone would want to be gay because of bigoted pricks like yourself telling them they are fuckwads and don't deserve equality.

    I don't even know why people want to be "logiced" into accepting homosexuality. It should be perfectly acceptable whether science says its natural, behavioral, for martians, etc.
    motherfucker, when did i say they should be punished on something they have no control over?
    you think im stupid enough to follow anything that would suggest that?
    dont answer that question, im not

    its the sexual intercourse that everyone can control, and that my friend is the sin.
    being hetrosexual or homosexual, having sex is a sin, let alone having sex with the same gender.

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    Having sex is a sin.

    Sigged.

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    i swear it flatters me.

    your kind don't even deserve to be quoted even if you're that much of a stubborn douchebag

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    Im stubborn?

    You called homosexuality a disease.

    You said religion and theism has no correlation to education, regardless of no less than 20 sources being quoted by 2-3 people.

    You said that sex itself is a sin.. (I can understand why you are so angry right now, i would be pissed to if I never got any).

    You said your religion is superior to any other religion, specifically the "weak christianity", without any evidence of why yours is more factual (and when you attempted in the last thread, you had your ass handed to you). Even in America Firas, why would there be less people that believe in god at higher educations? Does Islam not hold as much truth in the west?

    You are 4/4 on rediculous claims, dont get mad at me when everyone throws them back in your face.

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    I'm planning on taking a trip to New York soon, and I hear there are alot of gays there. So I went to the doctor to see if I could get a vaccination for Homosexuality. He looked at me weird, told me to pull my pants down, and he gave me a shot in my ass.

    I hope that shot isnt like the Flu shot. It would suck to get sick from the shot.

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    stfu, i took back "homo disease" fucking A man, do you not move on with shit?

    SEX is a fucking SIN according to the all the holy books!! ekfn34ioptgb402tgh432 why am i ridiculed on this? dont i believe in God? then its just normal that i believe sex is a sin, you fucking moron

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    why are you condemning gay sex more than heterosexual sex...not to mention why does every post about homosexuality you have ever made show a great deal of intolerance and ignorance?

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    Hindus dont believe sex is a sin.

    Buhdists dont believe sex is a sin.

    Hell, christianity doesnt even believe sex is a sin (inside marriage).

    And you are still ignoring my question. Why does belief in ALL religions (christian and islamic) decrease as education increases? Are you telling me muslims in America just arent educated?

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    Well, let's be fair Neo, you are claiming that Religion is a disease. You don't even try to hide your bigotry.

    Buhdists dont believe sex is a sin.
    It varies, but Buddhists do in general determine that unnecessary sex (IE not procreation) is detrimental to your path to enlightenment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    why are you condemning gay sex more than heterosexual sex...not to mention why does every post about homosexuality you have ever made show a great deal of intolerance and ignorance?
    Am i God here? why do you always give me that much credit?



    and you deny being stubborn? haha, look at you. asking the same question 3 times - scroll up, open your eyes, and read my posts about it.

    he said Religion is a disease? haha and he tells me this shit about homosexuality.


    anyways, AFK watching Doubt, they say its a good movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    Am i God here? why do you always give me that much credit?


    AFK watching Doubt, they say its a good movie.
    dear god lol. So your argument, and only argument, against homosexuality is "because god told me so" ?
    Are you aware there are many things in every holy book that have been disregarded over the years because they are out of date and are no longer relevant? The next things that should be removed is the hatred of homosexuality and contraception (gasp why are these in the same sentence!? ). The only reason they are not allowed is because they don't mean more followers of the religion running around. I think there are plenty of those now = out of date. Learn to think for your fucking self for once; god gave the ability to you for a reason (so many puns in that sentence)

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    Check mate:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...stribution.png

    Above obviously, is the percentage of Muslims by country.

    Below is the education levels of each country.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._2007_2008.PNG (Dark green = high education, Deep red = low education, yellow = medium, Brown = medium/low.)

    Weird, it is almost as if the most uneducated countries are the ones that are most Islamic.

    Odd.

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    Let's do the most educated societies next to a map of what are the most christian nations next!

    (sup correlative charts)

    EDIT: Also Indonesia isn't so bad off and it's the country with the highest muslim population in the world!

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