Adds-Ons killing our crafts

[Olbohn]

So, we all saw the introduction of the Augmentable body piece from ACP. Though, that didn't break many synths from what I've seen because it doesn't excel from whats available (Haub+1, Dalmatica, Shura, Ebody, Genie, etc). As a woodworker myself, I did see the decline of Cursed Togis being bought, but it hasn't been a significant change. What about your crafts?

Also, now with the introduction of an augmentable head piece. Will this break head piece crafts? I've been synthing Cursed Kabutos for some time, and I'm sure as hell the new helm with +25Acc, +4 STR, and +4 Attack, this helm's gonna be killing the HQ price of Kabutos. Will this new augmentable helm effect you?

[nitsuj]

So, we all saw the introduction of the Augmentable body piece from ACP. Though, that didn't break many synths from what I've seen because it doesn't excel from whats available (Haub+1, Dalmatica, Shura, Ebody, Genie, etc). As a woodworker myself, I did see the decline of Cursed Togis being bought, but it hasn't been a significant change. What about your crafts?

Also, now with the introduction of an augmentable head piece. Will this break head piece crafts? I've been synthing Cursed Kabutos for some time, and I'm sure as hell the new helm with +25Acc, +4 STR, and +4 Attack, this helm's gonna be killing the HQ price of Kabutos. Will this new augmentable helm effect you?

I'm doing Alchemy, so most likely people will still want the Blood pieces :D

[Olbohn]

I'm doing Alchemy, so most likely people will still want the Blood pieces :D

You just wait till the last Add-on has a augmentable movement speed + on the legs!

[Firedemon]

Didn't really affect smithing at all...unless of course you wasted your ten dollars on the ACP haubergeon to save 180k. Even still, there's still a shitton of people buying haubergeons.

[Tomiko]

Many seem to be getting rid of Demon Helm+1 in anticipation of the add-on. I imagine Wyvern Helms may go the same route since the options available look good for WS which would replace Wyvern.

Don't think Leather has any worries though since SE already killed Panther Mask+1 when they released Turban.

[Snprphnx]

while i dont synth, i can definitely see this hurting boneworkers. if you go with the STR+6 WS acc+15 WS dmg+2% build, it will destroy the wyvern helm for SAM and RNG

[Gan]

Also, now with the introduction of an augmentable head piece. Will this break head piece crafts? I've been synthing Cursed Kabutos for some time, and I'm sure as hell the new helm with +25Acc, +4 STR, and +4 Attack, this helm's gonna be killing the HQ price of Kabutos. Will this new augmentable helm effect you?

So true. Since i saw the notes on this new add-on i decided to not craft any more kabuto for now. just dont make sense anymore, even the hq is worse than the new hats.

[KoD]

This as posted will reduce sales, but wont completely remove them people will still need, as they will may pick for another job, a Sam will still need Shura kab, if he picks the Mnk one etc.

[Mizango]

There are a multitude of things to potentially craft, everyone at this stage should have multiple avenues in which they can still carve out enough gil to be enjoyable.

I mean is you were just a one trick pony from the get go then you did this to yourself, not the add ons. With that said I am a Goldsmith and its been dead for a long time. I still make nice change from HQing lower goods as well and other sources from within my craft.

It's all about adapting, not everything is going to be handed to you on a silver platter forever.

[Kaslo]

I did see the decline of Cursed Togis being bought, but it hasn't been a significant change.

I would chalk this up to less players needing Togi than ACP bodies. I know for the last like year and a half Togi's have been freelot in my linkshell. In addition, there are less and less players doing sky and/or needing items from sky. Thus, demand for Togi would decrease. I think its just coincidence that you noticed it around the time ACP came out.

Also, lol@+2% WS Dmg

[Therin]

So, we all saw the introduction of the Augmentable body piece from ACP. Though, that didn't break many synths from what I've seen because it doesn't excel from whats available (Haub+1, Dalmatica, Shura, Ebody, Genie, etc). As a woodworker myself, I did see the decline of Cursed Togis being bought, but it hasn't been a significant change. What about your crafts?

Definitely placebo.

Moogle hats will hurt Shura head and possibly Hecatomb head buyers, but ACP didn't. Something else is affecting that market and you're just putting the blame on ACP. I've literally never seen a MNK run around with Wardecors on as their TP piece.

[warrior2582]

I would chalk this up to less players needing Togi than ACP bodies. I know for the last like year and a half Togi's have been freelot in my linkshell. In addition, there are less and less players doing sky and/or needing items from sky. Thus, demand for Togi would decrease. I think its just coincidence that you noticed it around the time ACP came out.

Also, lol@+2% WS Dmg

That might be true for your ls, but there is still lots of new people doing sky. Mnk's place has fallen from being the Top DD and is used mainly in zergs and salvage, which I think is the main reason the demand has fallen for togis, haidates, and kabutos. Sams can get the same amount of str from legs/head from other pieces of gear for a relatively cheap price. Sams in HNMLS would prob go after the SHNM head and Hachiryu legs, so there is no real reason to get shura gear anymore. Even with salvage, the number of people who lvl mnk is declining.

[BerenTebogo]

Definitely placebo.

Moogle hats will hurt Shura head and possibly Hecatomb head buyers, but ACP didn't. Something else is affecting that market and you're just putting the blame on ACP. I've literally never seen a MNK run around with Wardecors on as their TP piece.

imo if you're using this to replace Nhead something is seriously wrong. In most 2h DD WS set there isnt enough places you can replace for more modifiers that will equal out or beat the benefit you get from the moogle head (feel free to prove me wrong with examples...lets say WAR)

[Deimos]

There are a multitude of things to potentially craft, everyone at this stage should have multiple avenues in which they can still carve out enough gil to be enjoyable.

This is exactly right, any craft is still easily profitable, you just have to do some research and some math. So many people get a bunch of gil from something, dump it into getting a 100 craft, and then cry when the one "famous" synth for that craft doesn't make any money. Then they give up on it and go whine on forums that crafting has been ruined by something-or-other.

For example, people that level bonecraft and then only try to make SH+1s, or level smithing and go for Haubergeon+1s. Yes, those big-name items can still be profitable, but if you do the math first, it turns out that you generally need good luck to make any profit at all on them. Personally, I don't craft any of the "HQ or huge loss" synths at all. Sure, my gil doesn't randomly increase by 20M, but it also doesn't randomly decrease by 20M either. I can still crank out very good profit over time with practically no risk, and I don't even have to leave the auction house.

The profit's still there, it's just not as easy to find as it used to be, you actually have to put some effort into looking for it now.

[Fiendishone]

while i dont synth, i can definitely see this hurting boneworkers. if you go with the STR+6 WS acc+15 WS dmg+2% build, it will destroy the wyvern helm for SAM and RNG

Gnadbhod's Helm wut? Pretty sure these killed the wyvern helms already since they're for all jobs.

[Hosom]

Gnadbhod's Helm wut? Pretty sure these killed the wyvern helms already since they're for all jobs.

It surely decreased the market, but that's not the easiest item ever to get, I wouldn't say it killed it.

[Xeres Celestia Highwind]

aside from the body piece, ACP hasn't really detracted from crafters. The people using keys to get augmented items are usually those who can't afford the HQ items anyways.

[Therin]

imo if you're using this to replace Nhead something is seriously wrong. In most 2h DD WS set there isnt enough places you can replace for more modifiers that will equal out or beat the benefit you get from the moogle head (feel free to prove me wrong with examples...lets say WAR)

It should certainly cut down on the number of people buying N.Head, though. Sure, N.Head is still better for most situations, but if there's an easy to get alternative you'll probably have less people shelling out 2-5M for the abjuration and therefore another 500k or whatever the cursed item costs. That was just my thought, really.

If you pick the following augment:

1) STR+4 WS Acc+15

And either:

1) DEX+4 Crit Damage+2%
2) AGI+4 WS Damage+2%
3) Accuracy+10 Att+5

It should beat out N.Head on multi-hit WSes in situations where your accuracy isn't capped. If you accuracy is capped, or near it, then of course N.Head will still win, but I'm not sure if it'll be enough of a difference to make people who aren't in HNMLSes shell out the gil for it.

[hollabackcerb]

While the add ons are great they are limited to one, the new update is gonna make your craftables more valuable. Just take Errant Hpl. for example, it is a descent peice alone but your gonna be able to add 4 augs to it... watch sales increase

[spooky]

Pretty sure crafting was dead way before any of the add-ons came out.