Player Warning: Snaggletooth of Siren.

[Leylong]

A whole wall of bullshit

I really don't think this is Hempone, because Hempone has talked to me in the last few days and said he came back to my LS, he's also a pretty mild mannered guy. From what I've seen he is outspoken and doesn't get mad or overly emotional like this person is doing. Hempone talked to Eklm just a day or two ago. It seems from what I heard, that he went back to his previous linkshell, as he told me he "didn't want to be involved in any of the drama" which I respected. However, after finding out what really happened and reading this thread, he sent me a /tell in game saying he was sorry for leaving, and did not understand the full scope of the situation. He returned to the shell, but as I said, he is a very mild mannered person, not the type to post something like this. At least, as far as I know. Trying to use common sense here. I'm not sure if he ever joined Snaggletooth's shell or not.

Also, the only officer that left my linkshell was Juilan. When he joined he made it clear he was close to complete on several sets of relic and only needed a few more pieces, which he got. I don't think he got everything he needed, but it seemed he started getting bored, and kept begging me to let him sponsor. I'm pretty sure he left because he wasn't allowed to sponsor, but I'm not going to say for sure. I don't hate Juilan, although he's given me some trouble lately.

But anyhow, to address whoever posted that. A few things I will note.

The run I got 3 AF2 in, was a Xarcabard run. I got Bard Legs, which I lotted over 2 people for who had gotten Xarcabard AF2 fairly recently. Then, WAR and DNC fell. No one needed, no one wanted, I even offered them to those with the job lower level, everyone suggested I take them. And yes, I felt a bit guilty about that. We've gotten more since then and have free lotted it. This has happened for many people on many runs, and happens in a lot of Dynamis linkshells. Some times people simply get lucky and will get 2-3 pieces in a run because no one else wants them.

The Valor Cape I took some time down the road, because once again, in the 8 months of this shells history I've missed a total of 1 run. So I decided to use my attendance again, and snag it (no pun intended). Other than these two instances I'm not sure of many times I've outlotted people on a piece of AF2, I might have against Linkn, but me and him are pretty good buddies so if he wants to punch me in the face or slap me around he's more than welcome to, but once again some people are adults about this shit and are able to work it out in a very simple and mature manner (thanks Linkn<3). The only other time I remember is when the shell first started doing Xarcabard some time ago, and had already told people I was saving up for the first pair of TH4. Do you know how often I use Thief outside of Dynamis? Or my TH4? Hardly ever. I wanted it so that as long as the shell was running, it would benefit overall drops. Did I mention I'm Thief for all Dynamis runs?

Again, I'm not sure how long this person was in my linkshell, but I had to take about 3 weeks off the game because I wasn't doing so well medically, and needed a bit of a break anyways. The funny thing is, during this time I didn't miss one event. I simply wasn't on between events. Snaggletooth didn't run jack shit during that time. He asked if he could start running some ZNM's and I gave him permission to. Low man, 6-12 person ZNM's that you do with a already filled up linkshell shouldn't be too hard. I will give him credit for finding a good deal of members, some of which were either gil sellers that I ended up having to kick or people who only went to 1 run, but yes, he did recruit well, and by that I mean he would stand in whitegate non stop shouting even when I asked him to stop shouting and simply scope out good people to join.

I smashed his shell because of the commotion he had been causing over such a stupid drop. I was planning on repearling him as I later explained to him, but after I did that he flew off the hook, even when I gave him a chance to calm down, and tried to talk to him for a long ass time.

I did only post the part with him threatening and all his bullshit. The other parts are simply me and him going back and forth and me trying to calm him down. I don't give two shits if you're drunk or not, being drunk doesn't excuse you from your actions, if anything it multiplies the ramifications. And his actions speak for their self.

Everyone knows I'm from Asura, and as I've said before, I'm surely not perfect. But I'm not some cheating, botting, piece of shit who ripped people off like a lot of others. I'm sure I had enemies there, just as I have had here, but I also had many good friends there, as I have had on Siren. When you are in end game for many years, there will always be people spewing shit off saying shit, talking about how you were horrible because they got butthurt over something or another. Human nature. One of the main things people were upset at me about for a long time was when I finally got 5/5 PLD relic armor, a month or two after that, I had to move back to California from where I was staying. I had a shitty apartment with no Internet, and was not able to sign on the game between that and my work for a good 3-4 months. Real life happens, I'm really sorry about that, but some one else did take the shell over, and it continued on to even beat Dynamis-Xarcabard, so they ended up being quite fine.

As far as snaggletooth trying to apologize, he came out to Rolanberry Fields when we were camping Simurgh. He stood there, after several people asked him to leave. I'm not sure if he did ever attempt to apologize or not, but I know several people in the alliance said he was spouting off the same shit again, even saying to "confirm his flight number" that he was flying out to see me and "wanted to do lunch". We all kind of laughed about it and shrugged it off. If he was offering a honest apology at any point I would have gladly taken it. As I tried to even apologize to him myself over what had happened.

Also, I'm sorry for my medical disabilities and having to take off from the game for them, but once again, real life happens, and some times you have to do what you have to do.

As I've explained before, and as Silenka said. I'm not forcing anyone to stay in the linkshell. Many people have left my shell for one reason or another, some simply didn't like the points system, and they left on good terms. I don't care that they left, and wish them the best of luck where things can work out for them. The thing that is so hilarious is how overcomplicated some people make this game.

No, my points system isn't perfect. But when it's a group of people using as what I try to describe in my rules section "common sense" it has worked fine without hardly any complaints since it was implemented. It's a game, where people come around, do a event, maybe get something, maybe not. No one is favored, and if they cannot trust that, they can simply leave. This isn't the damn US constitution. It's a MMORPG that is in it's elder years as we wait for the next one to come along.

I'm not a rocket scientist, but I wouldn't be going to far out on a limb to say this post was made by snaggletooth himself. The "F???" kind of gave it away, he also likes ending sentences in "!". Also, the petty insults only hone credence to the points I've been trying to make.


More than anything, I just want this god damn stupid nightmare to be over. I'm keeping to myself, and leaving him alone, yet he still pesters me and cannot just let this bullshit drop and go about his marry way. This post he obviously made should be enough to show that. As I've said before, people get kicked from linkshells, shit it's happened to me, and I've been pissed about it. But I got over it, moved on, went to other shells, did good deeds, what have you, it's part of life. In life, you'll get fired from jobs, kicked from groups, and friends will some times turn their backs on you. You've got to man up, deal with it, and move the fuck on.

And for the record, I hate candy bars. I eat mainly a complete organic diet (aside from splurging about once a month and getting a in n' out).

[Starr]

tl;dr guy crys about not getting THF hands, ls leader is a faggot and sucks up to him even though he's clearly not worth the effort and doesn't manage to get him back

[Leylong]

tl;dr guy crys about not getting THF hands, ls leader is a faggot and sucks up to him even though he's clearly not worth the effort and doesn't manage to get him back

I don't see how I'm sucking up to him. I did try to calm him down and set things strait after all this mess happened, and I do want him to go away and leave me alone, but if I was sucking up to him I wouldn't have made this thread in the first place.

[Silenka]

I wouldn't bother, guy is clearly a neurotic bish, just blist him and move on~ Best way to get someone to leave you alone is to ignore their existence entirely, which isn't very hard in an online game.

[juilan]

Also, the only officer that left my linkshell was Juilan. When he joined he made it clear he was close to complete on several sets of relic and only needed a few more pieces, which he got. I don't think he got everything he needed, but it seemed he started getting bored, and kept begging me to let him sponsor. I'm pretty sure he left because he wasn't allowed to sponsor, but I'm not going to say for sure. I don't hate Juilan, although he's given me some trouble lately.

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dude dont drag me into your posts, few things to say
1)OMG I GOTS NINJAR RELIC FROM WINDY AND JEUNO GO GO GO GO ME GO ME
2)you call me an officer but you only take one person's opinion into consideration and it wasn't an officer's... learn your definitions that are compliment with your server.
3)dynamis linkshells shouldn't have one person give his friends drops, or atleast thats old members have informed me of, i'm sorry for people joining to let you finish your what ever the hell weapon you've gotten to stay 4, or the second one? or just there to help you and your friends get relic items.

no ill regards but i just didn't like how you ran it....

one more thing
if you dont have the link pearl and the gm jails you for not talking to the leader of a shell you're not in, they give 13$

I wouldn't bother, guy is clearly a neurotic bish, just blist him and move on~ Best way to get someone to leave you alone is to ignore their existence entirely, which isn't very hard in an online game.

tried that got me jailed

[Leylong]

dude dont drag me into your posts, few things to say
1)OMG I GOTS NINJAR RELIC FROM WINDY AND JEUNO GO GO GO GO ME GO ME
2)you call me an officer but you only take one person's opinion into consideration and it wasn't an officer's... learn your definitions that are compliment with your server.
3)dynamis linkshells shouldn't have one person give his friends drops, or atleast thats old members have informed me of, i'm sorry for people joining to let you finish your what ever the hell weapon you've gotten to stay 4, or the second one? or just there to help you and your friends get relic items.

no ill regards but i just didn't like how you ran it....

one more thing
if you dont have the link pearl and the gm jails you for not talking to the leader of a shell you're not in, they give 13$


tried that got me jailed

When you leave a linkshell with a pearlsack Juilan, it would be best to inform the leader. Even if you simply said "I quit, I threw my sack, goodbye". You started ignoring me, out of no where, and I heard you had Snaggletooth's pearl on. I sent you a dozen /tells over the course of 2 days asking if you had left, and if so if you would drop your sack or sign on long enough for me to remove it. After not complying to either of these, I called a GM and had them remove your pearlsack.

Everyone in this linkshell gets relic items, everyone. That's WHY I have the system set in place that I do. I try to make sure everyone gets the things they want and desire to my best abilities. I consider anyone who joins the shell a friend. Anytime anyone gets a piece of relic they want, I'm completely happy about it. I'm not sure where you get this fact that only my "friends" get relic. But speaking of friends, remember when me and you both lot on RDM hands? And how I won them, then silently passed them to you? You didn't even ask me to, but I was trying to be nice. Not trying to give myself a gold star or anything, but you've gotten more than those two pieces, and I've done my best to try to give you the drops you wanted.

I'm not sure what "old members" other than the butthurt snaggletooth told you I only give "friends" drops, which is kind of hilarious, because all the old members are already fairly close friends of mine, so that's a bit of a hypocritical statement. New people get AF2 all the time, we've had people get Xarc and Beaucedine relic on their first run or two, we've had a few new people get many pieces after not being in the shell very long, and the people who have? Generally get a good deal of relic as well. Just for some people, it's never enough, nothing ever is. I can't stand people like that, who no matter what they get, it's not enough, and all they do is complain. Fucking swear, it feels like Preschool Online some times.

When a piece of AF2 drops, as I have posted in my rules, I look at the attendance records, I look at how long people have been in the shell, I look at what they've gotten, and I try to make as fair of a decision as possible. I've had "friends" get mad at me for doing this many times, when some one I didn't know as well got a piece of relic over them, I've done it to myself many times, would you believe that? I can't tell you how many pieces of relic I needed I have actually passed for people. Some I eventually ended up getting after everyone else who needed had them. Some I still haven't, and some I probably won't for a long while because there are others ahead of me on it.

Once again, if you can't trust the system, and be happy getting the loot and being in a decent group of folks, you're more than welcome to leave. My problem is when you act like a god damn 5 year old about it, and won't respect the group enough to let the leader take off your pearlsack. I entrusted you as a officer at one time, and you completely demolished that trust in more ways than one.

Once again, if you would have ever honestly sat down and tried to talk to me more reasonably about sponsoring instead of begging me constantly and always complaining about everything, I might have very well considered it, if I knew you were serious.

Another thing I can't stand though, is when people join a shell, knowing there is a sponsor, they get some AF2, then they start begging to sponsor. I've had people leave, after joining, because they couldn't sponsor. It's so damn annoying. If you know a shell has a sponsor, then don't be a lazy ass hole, and start your own, OR, find a shell that needs a sponsor. Getting a Relic weapon is not as easy as jumping in a shell, and begging the leader to let you sponsor and whining about it constantly, like some people tend to think.

Also, congrats on the $13. I've not been trying to screw you over as you've seemed to be trying to do to me. I simply didn't want you to go postal, as people have in the past, and sign on the linkshell and kick people at random. That's why I had the GM remove your pearlsack.

[Eklm]

Look i was there the next day. Sanggletooth was not stalking you, another LS mate told him our position. He came to appologize for getting so pissed off and being so drunk after that run. He literally did it all in /s beacause you would not acept his plea to appologize to you. Also i left the shell because of that right there. Any person willing to run all the way to you to make ammends and appologize at least deserves to be heard, reguardless of the outcome. I saw Snag literally run that shell while you were absent alot with your Diabetes. When i first came that shell just had a few people sitting in it doing nothing just wating for Dynamis runs. I saw Snag put alot of seats in the shell I guess thats why you made him an officer. I saw alot of events started by him too, that you eventually became a part of when you werent absent. He made it very clear he wanted TH4 i saw him pass on lots of gears he could have easily taken with your "Ley Decides" lotting system. I still have no clue how that works, why dont you post some stats or something. You also have alot of holes in your conversation considering i know you guys talked for over 2 hrs in Party and in /tell but yet i only see about 30 min, also there were other Party members involved as well as people that showed up to the meeting and once they arrived you Fled. Snag was pissed no doubt, but he took 10 min break to cool off, then he got on LS and shouted for a ZNM run, you then crushed his shell and his sac. Thats when all Hell broke loose, he takes 10 to cool off shouts for ZNM you mash his shell and sac without a word and you dont expect him to freak a little plus he just missed TH4 and he's drunk lol, but he was a man and came to appologize for it and you refused to even hear it. Also i got a question you always talking about making shell stronger and Snag did that, but you took Valor Cape for yourself, when our PLD's could have used that to make Shell stronger and you use PLD never in runs. Also i saw you take 3 gears in one run the only 3 gears to drop, then your best buddie Eklm did it the very next run, Odd system. Im going with sang like the rest of the LS did and all of your officers did except 1. Oh yeah and all you retarded people who posted right behind Ley are iggnorant cause you just got Duped by Leylong that just jumped Server from Asura Check his history, and as far as saying Snag would team with Feimetsu or Feiwong or Lofi or w/e the F??? his name is, is retarded you know that guy is a fruit and you just tryin your best to associate Snag with that guy, you a sad little Diabetic Boy. Hope you lose your candybar!

Ok, since I got dragged into this I am going to post a reply. First of all, I don't believe this is Hempone either since hemp is a much nicer person who would not lash out against others with no regards to them.

With your "Ley decided" comment, the lotting rules for the LS are CLEARLY posted on the website with all the factors involved. So, its not a mystery how that works.

Secondly, with your comment about Leylong lotting valor cape, I do not see how a person who hasn't missed a run since the shell started and is lotting gear for their main job (now keep it mind the ONLY reason Leylong comes to dynamis as Thf is because he has TH4. I know many many others who do not come as their main job) cannot lot over others who have missed more runs with that same primary job.

Also, since Leylong already explained his lotting those 3 gear on one run, let me explain my entire lot history in the shell. I will break this down job by job with piece by piece that I won.

Blue Mage - I came into the shell with 2 pieces (Body and legs back when it was under the old shell) and I received 2 pieces from new shell. Both pieces I lotted with no other members having the job leveled even CLOSE to 75. This is evident by every piece afterwards to fall going freelot to members, till we just recently in the last month or two got some more members with Blu leveled.

Sch - In the shell I became 5/5 with this job starting with 0 AF2. I didn't get to lot my first piece until some other Sch's that used to be in the shell (they moved on afterwards) were 5/5. So again, I was the only one with the job leveled. Even now, which you would admit to, we only have 1 other SCH in the shell and our last run in Sandy 2 SCH pieces dropped and both went freelot.

Thf - I was 2/5 before I even joined the shell. Since then, I have only gotten 1 piece (Thf Body). This was after 2-3 of our other Thfs that needed got drop on previous runs. Also, in regards to this whole Snaggletooth discussion with TH4, I have even attended more runs then Snaggletooth has (by about 3-4, so not by a great amount). Yet, because I have received a decent amount in shell Snag was allowed to lot over me. Was I upset or screaming at Leylong for this? No, since once again the decision that he made was more then fair.

Whm - I was 3/5 entering the shell and received Body when i was in the shell. Again, it is after our other whms already have gotted drop, and on that run there was maybe 1 person who needed besides me (but had much lower attendance).

Blm - Now, this is the job that I have actually gotten gear when other members have needed as well. Right now, as it stands in the shell, I have the 2nd most attendance of any other blm (Sazea was there before me for a few more runs). I am now 4/5 with not having any AF2 before then run. Blm pants I got from Basty where 3 other pairs dropped and i was the only other person who needed (that was when I first joined, where we had some other blms who have moved on since then). Blm feet from Jeuno I was allowed to log against Sazea and lost lot first time. Second time I received, but it was much later where most other blms where very new to the shell ( less then 6-7 runs). BLM body I Received on a run in Beaucedine where the only other blms on the run (Chewy and Sazea if i remember correctly) already had and did not need. Finally, Blm hands were the most recent and I was told to lot since i had much higher attendance then anyone else who needed on the run.

Also in shell I have received freelot War which only two people wanted. The one who got highest lot d/ced before it fell and I received.

So to summarize everything: I have received 5 AF2 that any other members have even needed and this was in the last 6-7 months. That means that other then freelot or items no one else needs I have received one competed against AF2 about every 8-10runs. I don't see how that is getting handed AF2 or having a leader giving preferential treatment to friends. I can understand from an outside perspective that without knowing our members job it would seem that some people get more drops then others, but would you rather have relic go to others with the job at 20-30 then to give it to someone who has it leveled even if they have received a decent amount.

In regards to you mentioning that the whole Linkshell left to go with snag, I cannot think of anything further from the truth. The only other member that left (that i know of) to go with snaggle was Saymour. Juilan left for a different reason (mainly because he had aspirations to complete his G. horn and with already having a sponsor it would have been a long wait in our shell - to which i do wish him the best of luck since it is a large undertaking and I prob would have done the same thing in his position) and Parker went with him since they are family.

Also, one thing that I forgot is that you mentioned Leylong is from Asura and he is trying to deceive people on here. Honestly, alof of the people on here know leylong. Hell, of the the admins (dunno if he still posts or does much on here due to the Salvage ban which i was sorry to hear about) Lordwafik didn't care much for leylong and would have been one of the first people to post he was from Asura if he was trying to hide anything. In our forums and on the LS website he also advises everyone that he ran successful linkshells on Asura, so he is not trying to hide anything from the shell as well

In regard to Juilan's post:

dude dont drag me into your posts, few things to say
1)OMG I GOTS NINJAR RELIC FROM WINDY AND JEUNO GO GO GO GO ME GO ME
2)you call me an officer but you only take one person's opinion into consideration and it wasn't an officer's... learn your definitions that are compliment with your server.
3)dynamis linkshells shouldn't have one person give his friends drops, or atleast thats old members have informed me of, i'm sorry for people joining to let you finish your what ever the hell weapon you've gotten to stay 4, or the second one? or just there to help you and your friends get relic items.

no ill regards but i just didn't like how you ran it....

one more thing
if you dont have the link pearl and the gm jails you for not talking to the leader of a shell you're not in, they give 13$

I do agree with you that Leylong should also consult with other leaders on drops more often, but at the same time thats not to say that all previous drops haven't been done 100% fairly which I believe it has. Most of the time the person who receives AF2 is the person 99% of the shell would pick to lot or expect to get drop on that run. Plus, with leylong pulling most runs he doesn't have time for sending alot of tells and doing everything else. Also, since attendance is the primary determining factor for drops, 99% of the time its just cut and dry who gets AF2. As for what you have been told by previous members, I doubt this would be the most accurate information since you yourself would have see this occur instead of just going off old members. Some people do get more AF2 then others, but that just depends on who is on the run and what people needs as you know. Hell, people without knowing jobs or the situation could even say Leylong was giving more AF2 to parker without knowing that most other people didn't need Cor and that Parker was first in line and deserved the Rdm he got.

Now in regards to the whole GM fiasco, I blame the GM more then Leylong. If i was the main leader of a LS, I would call a GM as well to verify that a prev Sac had dropped their pearl instead of being removed by leader. Now, I know that your not the kinda person who would log on and kick people to be vengeful, but at the same time as a leader you need to be safe as possible to eliminate any chance of it occurring. Honestly, the GM should have sent you a tell and with dropping LS they could have verified you didn't have it on you and not interrupted your day. Tho we all know how bright GM's are, so i doubt they would have went with something so "common sense".

[Snaggletooth]

I am very sorry for the way I acted that evening. My direct appologies to Leylong for having such an attitude and not giving him a real chance to communicate. I was very drunk mad and hurt and confused, that is no excuse for what I did and said. My emotions got the better of me and I made a complete fool of myself. I did speak with Eklm and try to smooth things over a bit, Eklm relayed to Ley, but I can understand what was done was done and the relationship has been tarnished "beyond repair" in the eyes of Leylong. Completely Understandable.

Let us all just go our separate ways, you run your shell, and we will run ours.

I will do my best to not overlap Scheduling Zones. In order to avoid any future conflict. You can check the Scheduler and See Aroman will be posting.

You are right Ley this is just a game, and once again I do appologize for the way I treated you, aside from that I do not know what else I can do to repair what has been done. I would hope that over an entire year of running with you, would take all the positives I tried to instill, and not judge me for this one negative action. But I can understand a bit how you feel, I feel as though I really lost a good freind, due to my own childish actions. People make mistakes and honeslty I can say that I did.

Sorry Ley lets just move on and have fun. There is no need for an entire fleet of people to keep getting into this Post, just to continue feuling the drama and having in game gossip.

Whats done is done, I did what I did, and I sincereley appologize

I still hold no antimosity towards you whatsoever, I'm the one to blame.

Snaggletooth

[Leylong]

I am very sorry for the way I acted that evening. My direct appologies to Leylong for having such an attitude and not giving him a real chance to communicate. I was very drunk mad and hurt and confused, that is no excuse for what I did and said. My emotions got the better of me and I made a complete fool of myself. I did speak with Eklm and try to smooth things over a bit, Eklm relayed to Ley, but I can understand what was done was done and the relationship has been tarnished "beyond repair" in the eyes of Leylong. Completely Understandable.

Let us all just go our separate ways, you run your shell, and we will run ours.

I will do my best to not overlap Scheduling Zones. In order to avoid any future conflict. You can check the Scheduler and See Aroman will be posting.

You are right Ley this is just a game, and once again I do appologize for the way I treated you, aside from that I do not know what else I can do to repair what has been done. I would hope that over an entire year of running with you, would take all the positives I tried to instill, and not judge me for this one negative action. But I can understand a bit how you feel, I feel as though I really lost a good freind, due to my own childish actions. People make mistakes and honeslty I can say that I did.

Sorry Ley lets just move on and have fun. There is no need for an entire fleet of people to keep getting into this Post, just to continue feuling the drama and having in game gossip.

Whats done is done, I did what I did, and I sincereley appologize

I still hold no antimosity towards you whatsoever, I'm the one to blame.

Snaggletooth

You've got to be kidding me? This isn't Snaggletooth. Hempone up there is Snaggletooth. You can tell by his spelling, his censoring of his own cuss words, and the grade school insults along with ending sentences in "!". I also seriously doubt even if he sat down for a long period of time he could use such proper spelling and grammar.

It's insanely obvious to anyone with half a brain, that was Snaggletooth up there posting as Hempone. Once again, Hempone came back to my shell, talked with me and Eklm after having read this thread, and apologized for leaving in the first place. He also left our shell to go back to his previous shell only because he didn't want to "choose sides" and have anyone mad at him as I explained. He is one of the most calm and well mannered people I've met on this game, and anyone who knows Hempone knows that. After he came back, he ended up going to Dynamis-Windurst with us and getting WHM AF2 as well. I've not seen him on for a few days, but one of this friends told me he was going to be offline for awhile, and wasn't sure how long, or when he'd be back. I also doubt he'd be spewing off mindless bullshit like "You pathetic little Diabetic boy" either. Fucking seriously, this is laughable.

But it is obvious some one is trying to make amends. I'm not sure who it is, posting as Snaggletooth, but I've got a pretty good idea. If it is, I will respect what they are doing, and trying to do, to put a end to the drama. As long as Snaggletooth and his "gang" leave me and my members alone, I will do the same for him. But I'm also not going to sit back and let him harass me or my members. Whoever you are, I commend you on trying to put a end to the Drama, and taking up for this, if that is what you're really trying to do.

[Tamarind]

Are YOU kidding me? Who was the one trying to convince everyone about me and some of my shell members being "bad news and REALLY REALLY evil people."? I recall that was you, Leylong. I'm far from being perfect, or anyone else to be perfect for that matter, but when shit went sour, and you flipped out on us, we weren't the ones running around trying to warn everyone about how pathetic and evil you were.

Sure, i'll admit i've made several jokes at your expense, but i'm probably not the first nor am I certainly the last one who will. But I did not purposely try to ruin your reputation, you are more than capable of accomplishing that for yourself, Ley.

I know it was Snaggle who wrote that apology, because Aro and I were talking to him when he wrote it. Believe it or not, that's your own deal. But stop trying to convince everyone that you're out to be this poor victim in all these bad situations you seem to find yourself in.... constantly.

The way Snaggletooth reacted was in fact uncalled for, and I will whole-heartedly agree that situation could have been handled a lot better. But, it didn't. Big fucking whoop. Was it REALLY necessary to run to these forums and publicly blast them for it? I mean really, does someone come running here or on KI everytime you shit a brick? "PLAYER WARNING: LEYLONG FLIPPED OUT (AGAIN), WATCH THE FUCK OUT!" Christ dude, way to attract un-needed attention to yourself. I woulda quit while you were ahead, but I guess you don't roll with common sense.

Aro and I left your dynamis shell cause we felt it was unfair the way it was run. We didn't bad mouth you and get in a hissy fit over any of it, we simply left. And then you go around telling people how evil we are, how sad do you have to be, honestly? You say you gave Aro and I "a chance" as if we did you wrong in every sense of the word - as if we owed you something... puh-lease.

Stop trying to look like the victim constantly, and just leave people be. Obviously this needs to stop, so let's end it now. Ignore us, we'll ignore you, all will be right in the world again.

[Snaggletooth]

this is Snaggletooth, i dont know who anyone else is, but what i said was real, and I just saw you and your LS leave to Nashmu if that gives you any clarification to proving this is me.

It was EKlm, Sazea, Seed, Ley, and 2 new peeps i dont know, so i hope this helps prove to you Snaggletooth is me and my apology is real.

I dont know what else can be done.

I have appologized for the part that I have played in the situation and thats all I can do, if you would like me, ill get on game and stand in front of you and post while im standing in front of you.

you dont have to accept the appology, thats your choice. But I'm doing my best to end the situation and would hope you would do the same.

[Silenka]

You've got to be kidding me? This isn't Snaggletooth. Hempone up there is Snaggletooth.

I'm pretty sure they're both Snaggletooth, actually, considering that 'appologize' isn't a very common misspelling. Could always be wrong, but I'd almost bet money on it. What confuses me is why he would post something like that, and then act contrite and go out of his way to 'appologize' to you twice. The plot thickens...

[Snaggletooth]

Its me im standing right now watching LS get Soap, so no you can be positive cause peeps are chatting me as I Stand here.

And Silenka wtf, get your fat ass up and mind your own biz, take a job or something. You got nothing better to do than sit around and check posts of other people you have already Blisted, get a life!

[Silenka]

The random capitalization in the middle of sentences just backs up that he was posting as hempone. Why would he post as hemp and not himself? lol

I enjoy text analysis quite a bit, I'm pretty good at it honestly, but anyone can be good at it if they take the time to notice patterns. Honestly the only reason I care is because I find it amusing/interesting to pick apart stuff like that.

[Kyten]

Drama llama :D

[Snaggletooth]

I have never once said or had a bad word to say to you ever Silenka until you started this, only time I ever remember talking to you, you told me "honestly i just dont like you"
and I responded (Understood) no worries. And not another word.

Why do you feel the need to get involved with this LS matter? Nothing better to do?

I really would like to know who Hempone is myself so I can thank him/her personally. I have had Several calls to my toll free number cheering me on and telling me im in the right. I dont care, I reply the same to every call, "it doesnt matter its a video game but thank you"

I have been a Man and appologized for the part I played in the matter.
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Anyalyze that if you got nothing better to do.

[Silenka]

Drama llama :D

I enjoy hilarious and often pointless drama as much as the next guy (or girl in my case).

[Leylong]

This thread is hilarious, I cannot believe the way people act on here, seriously.

Tamarind, you are absolutely right, people don't go posting shit about me everytime I do something wrong, because I don't go around threatening to kill some one because I didn't get a piece of AF2. In fact, I've not really wronged anyone in some huge way, aside from people's opinions that most everyone will have about any LS leader. Which always includes "Isn't he getting too much?! He's loot whoring!" or anytime a friend of theirs gets something "He's playing favorites".

That's why people don't write shit about me all the time. Although I'm sure they could, and you know what? They have. But it was more minor "He said, she said" bullshit drama that tended to die out like a weak flame, or bullshit things I said as a noob when I first started and first started getting into end game.

I don't say as many bad things about you and Aro as you might think. In fact I tell most people "I don't want to get into it" when they ask about you. You're using a bit of reverse psychology here, and obviously trying to make yourself look the victim. I was a bit pissed when you and Aro left, because you didn't say a damn thing to me. You could have at least have told me, especially getting AF2 as you both had, but whatever, let it be.

You have both given me some major problems in the past, and even after that, you both came to me in apology, saying you wanted to forget the past and move on and be friends, and you know what? I wanted the same so I gave you that "chance" and let you join. But this isn't a thread about that, and I don't want to, nor will I drag that drama in here, as is it irrelevant at this point. And I want as little bullshit drama as I have to deal with. It's funny that you're coming here, defending yourself so adamantly, getting so upset over the matter. It's not helping your cause at all. But I'm not hear to deface Aroman and Tamarind, or make you into the evil demons you think I'm trying to. Once again, if ya'll leave me alone, I can assure you I will do the same.

Snaggletooth, it is 100% obvious that the thing "Hempone" wrote up there was you. Maybe you were drunk, maybe you were venting, I'm not sure, if the Snaggletooth posting as Snaggletooth is indeed Snaggletooth (christ almighty) and you want me to leave you alone, then fine. But stop following my members around, or talking shit to them about my shell, or trying to harass them. As long as you stop that, I will leave you alone, and so will they. I'm not aware of anyone else in the game who would get even close to that mad at me, with that type of spelling and grammar, and those kinds of insults, and from what people can even see in this thread, it's pretty obvious. This is why I say, if you just WOULD leave me the fuck alone, I'd do the same.

Also, if there are actually a few pathetic souls you some how convinced you were in the right, and think that threatening people over the internet to kill them over a drop in a video game is cool, and you are in the right to do that, well, it wouldn't fully surprise me. There are a lot of god damn idiots around anymore. Luckily the majority of people seem to still have at least one eye and half sense. But if in your words "It's alright, it's just a video game" why did you spend an hour threatening to kill some one over a fucking drop in it? Jesus Tap Dancing Christ you're hypocritical.

Kyten, I don't know whether you're joking or serious, either way I laughed hard. lol

[Snaggletooth]

Did you just act like a man and accept the appology and drop the issue?

I couldn't tell. (seriously not trying to stir it more)

Simple yes or no will do.

[Theytak]

god I love this server