UFC 100

[Day]

He admitted to doing it to shut him up, and he knew he was knocked out, but like tyven said, rules say keep swinging till ref stops you, I'm sure there have been times when someone was knocked out briefly and recovered.

[Dimmauk]

In terms of sheer physicality, Carwin is one of the few fighters that match up well with Lesnar. I'm not a huge fan of Lesnar, so take that into consideration when I say this. I have absolutely no problem with the majority of what he did after he won. The one thing I took issue with is disrespecting Mir in his corner when he was still trying to figure out where he was.

Insulting the fans, whatever. The guy just made himself the most hated man in MMA. He's basically assured both himself and the UFC monumental paychecks when he's on the card. As much as people loved Couture, they now hate Lesnar just as much. He has the physical tools to remain at the top for some time, as long as he continues to evolve. If he continues with the bull rush method, odds are sooner or later someone is going to catch him and it will be lights out time.

Henderson I am extremely disappointed in. I fucking loathe Bisping. If he never fought again I would be thrilled. That being said I think Henderson crossed over the line when he nailed him with that forearm. Bisping was out the second that fist connected. Hendo knew that. The forearm was a bit much and I'm shocked Rampage didn't freak out when he saw it happen. It ruined an otherwise fucking awesome knockout.

So now who's left to fight GSP? Another fight with Jon Fitch? There aren't too many big names left out there that GSP hasn't already demolished.

All in all, a pretty damn good showing for UFC 100.

Who’s afraid of big, bad Brock? Not Carwin

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports 10 hours, 33 minutes ago


Yahoo! Sports

Maybe it was because, at 6-foot-3, 263 pounds, Shane Carwin is nearly the same size as, and actually has bigger meat hooks than, Brock Lesnar.

Maybe it was just a savvy promotional move for Carwin, an unbeaten, top contender for Lesnar’s Ultimate Fighting Championship heavyweight belt.

Or maybe the “Colossus from Colorado” really was so outraged at Lesnar’s antics at UFC 100 he couldn’t contain himself.

Whatever it was, Carwin pulled no punches on his personal blog, hammering Lesnar for taunting a fallen opponent, tossing middle fingers at the Mandalay Bay Events Center crowd in Las Vegas and acting like anything but a respectful champion Saturday. After a stern talking to by UFC president Dana White, Lesnar apologized for his actions. Carwin was apparently unmoved (he didn’t return a message seeking comment).

“The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME,” Carwin wrote. “He may be a champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a champion.”

It got better, with the old school Carwin, who sports an 11-0 record, lecturing Lesnar like he was a little boy.

“The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama. It is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did [Saturday] night. It doesn’t matter how much money you make if you can’t earn your peers respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world.


“Every autograph I give, every hand I shake I am thankful that you give me the opportunity to be a part of your world. This is the greatest sport in the world and most of the athletes in it deserve the love and respect they get and some just don’t get it.”

The mechanical engineer wasn’t done yet. Next up, a shot at Lesnar’s pro wrestling background.

“We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn’t matter if you win or lose; it matters how you win or lose.”

And to think Lesnar couldn’t deal with Frank Mir making fun of his jiu-jitsu defense (which was once, admittedly, weak). This alone will fuel him through a long Minnesota winter of training. And who knows what else Carwin has in him?

Carwin takes on Cain Velasquez (6-0) in October at UFC 104 in Los Angeles. The winner gets a shot at Lesnar for the title, White has announced.

If it’s Carwin (no small feat against the excellent Velasquez) then this wouldn’t just be an intriguing fight, but suddenly a personal one. Carwin, like Lesnar, is a former collegiate wrestling champion. They’re about the same size; although Carwin’s massive 5-XL gloves are actually two sizes larger than Lesnar’s. It’s one reason none of Carwin’s opponents have lasted past the middle of the first round.

Which is good because the indomitable way Lesnar has looked of late, it’s going to take a special mix of size, speed and skill to challenge him. And he’s only getting better.

Carwin doesn’t sound concerned. Not about Lesnar and not about rattling his cage. His rip job will be appreciated in traditional mixed martial arts, where discipline and respect for an opponent is still paramount.

Since arriving from pro wrestling, Lesnar has expressed little concern for such things. That’s his right and it’ll earn him plenty of supporters who love every second of it. If he wants to sneer and snarl, if he wants postfight interviews complete with sponsor bashing, cheesy histrionics and juvenile statements, there’s only one way to stop him.

“From leaving the venue all the way to the airport I have had fans of the sport ask me to take out Brock Lesnar for them,” Carwin wrote.

The UFC will focus on pursuing the world’s No. 1 heavyweight, Fedor Emelianenko (30-1), who is approaching his final contracted fight with the UFC’s rival promotion, Affliction. That takes place Aug. 1 in Anaheim, Calif.

“We’ll end up getting that deal done and then we’ll do Brock vs. Fedor and we’ll do a huge fight,” White said.

Time will tell on that. In the interim, a contender is waiting to earn his shot and then possibly take the trash talk to a whole new level. That’s what Brock Lesnar has brought to the UFC, visceral reactions all around.

Some loathe him. Some love him. Everyone wants to see what happens next, a string of big pay-per-view cards almost all but assured.

Now here comes a sizeable challenger, issuing preemptive blog posts and lectures to the champion on sportsmanship, humility and class.

Shane Carwin is itching for a fight. You can rest assured, after this, Big Brock will be too.

[Brill Weave]

Meh Swick might be able to last a few rounds. But I think that Fitch is a better fighter overall. Rumble might be an interesting match up but in the end I still don't think there's anyone around right now that's capable of knocking GSP off his pedestal. As to Rampage, he's not exactly shown himself to be the most even keeled guy around. While I agree with what you're saying Tyven, when a guy is clearly out, which Bisping was, people tend to ease up. Hendo didn't because of the bad blood between the two. He took a cheap shot and admitted it.

I'm worried that with the dominance of GSP, there aren't going to be any serious contenders in his weightclass. I mean seriously, who is left? While I like Rumble, he's not going to stay in there long against GSP. Mike Swick would last a few rounds before losing it. The pickings are getting slim. I wouldn't be surprised to see GSP in a few more super fights.

[Brill Weave]

Yeah I read that article too Dimm. I think Carwin/Lesnar would be a good fight just based on the fact that body wise, they are almost dead even.

[tyven]

if it comes down to it, Nick Diaz just might have to come back to the UFC and give that french canadian a BEATDOWN

[Day]

Carwinism?

[Dimmauk]

if it comes down to it, Nick Diaz just might have to come back to the UFC and give that french canadian a BEATDOWN

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...z/diaznuts.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...3091500175.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...az/diaz420.jpg

[tyven]

tune into his press conference today. oh man rematch vs Joe Riggs. SO FUCKING EPIC. guarantee there will be epic shit talking

[Brill Weave]

GSP would completely dismantle Diaz imo. Everything except his mouth. That way he could keep trashtalking from a body cast

[tyven]

OHSTOP

[Day]

I think it says more about his skill if he's able to fight like that stoned than anything.

[Brill Weave]

Diaz is a no talent punk who doesn't even deserve to so much as sniff the UFC let alone compete in it. He's a bitch. Always been a bitch. Will always be a bitch.





















That one was for you Tyven. Just for you.

[tyven]

be careful or TommyGunnz will come into the thread and claim none of us watched UFC before Machida beat Evans

[Brill Weave]

I just wanted to see if I could get you to rage. You have let me down for the last time!

be careful or TommyGunnz will come into the thread and claim none of us watched UFC before Machida beat Evans

Is he still around? I've implemented a voluntary shunning of him.

[tyven]

i doth not rage about the Diaz, Nick. the world knows he is the most talented catch weight fighter in the world

[tyven]

idk the last time he had to fight in a proper weightclass

[tyven]

maybe that BULLSHIT loss to KJ Noons. now that fight makes me rage

[Dimmauk]

be careful or TommyGunnz will come into the thread and claim none of us watched UFC before Machida beat Evans

LOL

[Brill Weave]

He was asking for it!!

[noblemountain]

be careful or TommyGunnz will come into the thread and claim none of us watched UFC before Machida beat Evans

Maybe he went back to whatever hole he crawled out of. Every post he made in the mma threads made me wanna punch a baby.