Cor (DD)

[Spider-Dan]

The question is...

Is sushi with Slug better than Deto with Meat?

Irrelevant. Your melee accuracy will suck without sushi.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Irrelevant. Your melee accuracy will suck without sushi.

This^. With /WAR and sushi, your Acc is hardly desirable. Take out the sushi and you're doing nothing but hurting(and no, /RNG isn't a sushi substitute - 22 Acc =/= sushi).

[nekura]

http://venomweb.150m.com/logs/gcolibri12-29-2008.html

85.7% slug accuracy as COR/DNC with meat (divide total skill damage by average WS to get # landed).

With sushi (which I really should have been eating), slug accuracy is complete non-factor.

Guess I was just unlucky with my Slugs last time I parsed on COR (and it was at North Mamool...).

Siralin, I'm guessing that's at bird camp? Damn, what's with the accuracy on those SAMs? XD I think in the first parse you could've done better, second parse eh.

Edit: Wait, Blade: Ku? lol. Shoulda tried to beat the NIN at least. XP

All this talk about COR (and getting my Commodore Belt) makes me wanna merit on it again, Siralin come be SAM or DRK at birds this weekend. X3

[Bakthi]

People gonna rage on me but fuck it, WHM is the best sub for Einherjar because you never know what mobs you are going to get until you're in there and at least you are a shit ton more useful where you wouldn't be if you come with a DD sub. Cure/Erase/na the strong DDs, assist sleeps/dispels it is really the best way to go.

I can easily see how that might be the case for someone else, but it's not the case for me, for the reasons I explained above. Einherjar is a 30+ person event for a LS like us, and you go to Einherjar with the DDs you have.

Also, there's no reason you can't help sleep/dispel while DDing. I'm rotating BRDs in and out of my party, keeping rolls up, sleeping mobs, giving instructions in /l, still outparsing some of the "real" DDs, and 2-boxing a RDM. I hope I'm doing enough. Eventually, I will probably change to 2-boxing a BRD instead; we never seem to get enough of those.

I don't mind going /mage, and happily do it for several events, but for my LS, Einherjar isn't one of them. I'm sure it is for some though, and I don't like morally object to that or anything.

As far as WS goes, I tend to use Slug in merits and Detonator elsewhere. I still need to get Leaden Salute and then figure out what to do with it. I've heard good things about WSing in Dynamis (particularly statues, which I often QD to help finish off already). I would imagine it's also good on slimes and similar mobs.

[Thorny]

Also, there's no reason you can't help sleep/dispel while DDing.

There's also no reason you can't DD while subbing a mage, and being on a DD sub on mobs you can't melee is far worse off than being on a mage sub on mobs you need to DD.

[Toth]

Ah, nothing like doing 2200+ slug shots on Einherjar bosses (well the boss' demons). I do like my COR/WAR as a DD :D

(at work, will post pics later. needless to say, my screenshot folder is full of 1500-1800+ Slug shots in Einherjar).

[cdgreg]

(at work, will post pics later. needless to say, my screenshot folder is full of 1500-1800+ Slug shots in Einherjar).

LOL, when I first read this I read it as "my screenshot folder is full of 1500-1800 pictures of me doing slut shots at einherjar"

[Carrilei]

Whatever the SJ is, if you're not DD'ing throughout Einherjar.. Change jobs.

[jester2937]

Guess I was just unlucky with my Slugs last time I parsed on COR (and it was at North Mamool...).

I think most of us are talking birds, here. Mamools -- especially north Mamools with all the ninjas and thieves to be killed -- is poor, poor placement for slug shot. I might even consider sushi AND detonator there. Or even Leaden Salute if you've got the AGI/MAB to back it up.

[nekura]

I think most of us are talking birds, here. Mamools -- especially north Mamools with all the ninjas and thieves to be killed -- is poor, poor placement for slug shot. I might even consider sushi AND detonator there. Or even Leaden Salute if you've got the AGI/MAB to back it up.

I also whiffed enough Detonators there to make me shed a little tear, lol. I was actually asked to come WAR to that party but I prefer parties to have 2 buffers even if one of them has to be me. But yeah, I'm gonna stick to birds on my COR now, even though they eat my gil.

[Toth]

LOL, when I first read this I read it as "my screenshot folder is full of 1500-1800 pictures of me doing slut shots at einherjar"

LOL.

Anywhere, here are two of my slugs from last night on two of the demon mobs. /WAR, squid sushi, zerk, double minuet, XI chaos.

[Spider-Dan]

(nevermind)

[Jeherrit]

I have a question for those of you who primarily use Slug.

I only recently hit Cor 75 and am looking to start optimizing my my Slug gear for various events. Until now I've just been stacking acc. /rng and eating sushi for the most part just to be safe but it leaves my slug damage itself rather lacking (my last pt on birds my slugs were only doing 7-900 depending on chaos roll, albeit i was still level 74).

So what kind of gear/buffs do you people generally rely on to maximize damage while still maintaining capped acc on Slug shot? I realize this will vary depending on what I'm fighting but I would really just like to get an idea of how much i need to compensate for Slug's inherent acc issues.

[nekura]

I have a question for those of you who primarily use Slug.

I only recently hit Cor 75 and am looking to start optimizing my my Slug gear for various events. Until now I've just been stacking acc. /rng and eating sushi for the most part just to be safe but it leaves my slug damage itself rather lacking (my last pt on birds my slugs were only doing 7-900 depending on chaos roll, albeit i was still level 74).

So what kind of gear/buffs do you people generally rely on to maximize damage while still maintaining capped acc on Slug shot? I realize this will vary depending on what I'm fighting but I would really just like to get an idea of how much i need to compensate for Slug's inherent acc issues.

Slug needs a lot of ranged attack to hit the sweet numbers. Chaos Roll helps of course, as does Minuet; however if you're in a party with a BRD chances are they're giving two Marches. Your other alternative is subbing /WAR for Berserk, that in combination with Chaos Roll will give you some nice numbers.

Edit: As for optimal equipment, get a Martial Gun for one (not sure if you have one). For rings I use one Behemoth Ring and Rajas, pants I use Dusk Trousers since it's a huge amount of Ranged Accuracy and you can't get a lot of STR in the slot, belt I use Commodore (previously Buccaneer's), body... I need to do some testing between AF1+1 and Denali.

[Jak]

I have a question for those of you who primarily use Slug.

I only recently hit Cor 75 and am looking to start optimizing my my Slug gear for various events. Until now I've just been stacking acc. /rng and eating sushi for the most part just to be safe but it leaves my slug damage itself rather lacking (my last pt on birds my slugs were only doing 7-900 depending on chaos roll, albeit i was still level 74).

So what kind of gear/buffs do you people generally rely on to maximize damage while still maintaining capped acc on Slug shot? I realize this will vary depending on what I'm fighting but I would really just like to get an idea of how much i need to compensate for Slug's inherent acc issues.

What the person above me said is correct, although I've yet to find a Brd who used march/march (I always get march/minuet, but hey.. not griping I guess). As for my person preference on optimizing slugs and still maintaining a decent % of accuracy I go /war and spam sole sushi.

A bit of advice about /war though.. I notice a lot of Cor only seem to use 'serk/warcry when they have an optimal roll/minuet/dia/etc. Don't waste precious time on your Berserk. If it's up to use, use it. Don't let it sit there and waste away.

Gear wise, this is what I use for Slugging (Mind you I also have 8 marksmanship merits).

Joyeuse/Legion/Martial/Steel
AF1/Light Gorget/Drone/Drone (sold triumphs for HQ staves )
Denali/Blood Guantlets/Behemoth+1/Rajas
Amemet+1/Bucaneer/Dusk+1/AF1

I don't do limbus or I'd have AF1+1 head/feet. Hope that helps a little.

[Jeherrit]

Thanks for the replies, they actually help me out a fair bit. Between not having ever heard more than hearsay on the specifics of Slug's acc penalty and some of my rng friends telling me that r.acc is wonky I was worried I would need more acc in what is in those sets to cap off.

My current slug set which ive been using /rng is:

joyeuse/--/Martial/steel
O.Hat/Light Gorget/Drone/Drone
Pahluwan/Blood/Merman's/Merman's
amemet+1/gun/precise belt/Dusk NQ/AF+1

Merman's I'm using just because i already had them from pld. Pahl. body I'd gotten long ago for my mnk (which i have shura for now, shoulda saved that AP for something better ) so i figured i might as well have it double as my TP and ranged body piece until i get more AF+1 mats and can upgrade body. I dont have room for marksmanship merits sadly so with this gear I'm sitting at about the same acc as Jak's listed set when /war since I'm Mithra.

[Jak]

I'm at work so I can't look up the stats on pahlugly body, but what's so great about it for anything dealing with ranged attacks? I've always refused to use any pahlugly gear as it seemed inferior to what I already had to use (e.x. AF1 body, Denali, SH+1, AF2 body, etc.)

Not critiquing the piece, simply wondering.

[nekura]

It does technically have more ranged accuracy than NQ AF1 body does.

[Jak]

Like I said, I can't look up anything under "game" category at work (even though BG oddly isn't blocked) so I couldn't find the stats on it. I guess if it has more R.Acc+ than AF1 I might look into getting it solely for barrage on higher evasion stuff I go /rng to.

[Jeherrit]

Yeah, pahl body is +10acc, +10 r.acc so while it's neither the best piece for TPing or Ranged attacking/WSing in the game it does rather admirably for being a hybrid piece.