Mad Men

**Rhinox** · 2012-05-14 15:25

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mauree...b_1513742.html

**Rhyis.** · 2012-05-15 15:08

What a retarded fanboy review lol. Theon is just as unlikable/uninteresting as Betty is. He gets just as much camera time (possibly more) as well. Doesn't ruin the show at all, that's simply his character. He's a jerk and will do jerkish things. Betty is exactly the same.

**Laugana** · 2012-05-15 15:30

I thought Betty had changed. She was sweet and supporting of her husband, showed vulnerability at the Weightwatchers club/eating food. Which all came down when she tried to turn Sally against Don. You almost feel sorry for her.

**Rhinox** · 2012-05-15 15:49

Originally Posted by Rhyis.

What a retarded fanboy review lol. Theon is just as unlikable/uninteresting as Betty is. He gets just as much camera time (possibly more) as well. Doesn't ruin the show at all, that's simply his character. He's a jerk and will do jerkish things. Betty is exactly the same.

No one said she ruins the show. I've only said she's making it unwatchable to the point where I fast forward her scenes. Jj's acting is just that bad.

**Rhyis.** · 2012-05-15 21:15

The reviewer in the article you linked said she ruined the show multiple times. That's what I was talking about. I said so in the first sentence.

**Tellahh** · 2012-05-18 19:02

Was so glad Betty got shat on in the end, fucking lol'd when she smacked the box or w/e off the table, she plays such a good bitch.

Also super late but,

prolly one of my fav parts of the season so far lol, that and the music coming out of the vodka bottle during the acid trip was priceless :D.

**Kais** · 2012-05-27 22:13

A+ episode man ;______:

**Fiddle Sticks** · 2012-05-28 08:40

One of the best, if not THE best episode all season.

Was I the only one who thought Peggy was about to step into an empty elevator shaft at the end and fall to her death? For some reason that scene where Don looked down the empty shaft flashed in my head when she was looking the other way and about to step in the elevator.

**Trichocyst** · 2012-05-28 09:02

I was both revolted, saddened, and deeply entertained by the new episode. Pete Campbell is such a card carrying villain now.

**Trichocyst** · 2012-05-28 09:18

Extended thoughts:

Spoiler: show

I'm not sure what upsets me most: Peggy leaving SCDP or Joan literally becoming a prostitute. The whole episode left me groaning and revolted, but it was a good episode. When did Pete become such a card carrying villain? I mean, he's never been the most morally upright dude, but he's really just become a vile human being. I wonder if they're going to explore the whole idea that he's essentially trying to emulate what he thinks Don is. He was just so nonchalant about it all. And good for Don (kinda) for being outraged, but, ugh, Don, he still can't figure out his wife even a little. I felt so bad for Megan when she went into her audition and they just wanted to see what she looked like.

It was a pretty shocking episode, but excellent. It's done episodes about the objectification of women before, but never quite like this. Just watching it made me feel dirty. I can't believe only Don had the fortitude to object considering that Roger (supposedly) has these deep feelings for Joan and Lane has feelings for her too. I guess I'm glad that Lane convinced her to take a stake in the business, but, ugh, everything about it is awful. Like, this extends the whole idea of Joan as this really strong, independent 60's woman (who's now a partner in the firm!), which is amazing, but... She had to be a fucking prostitute to get it!

And Don, the "Good One", was just as guilty as the rest of them since he refused to take any action (other than removing himself of the responsibility of it) until it was too late.

Even Peggy was kind of on display this episode. Is Ted Chaugh really interested in her talent, or is the novelty of a woman writing? Is it to get under Don's skin? I'd have to re-watch the scene to nail the way it all unfolded, but there was just something felt so sinister about it. Maybe it was just the idea that Peggy is leaving. It was so good to see her create magic on the spot and I really want her to be buddies with Ken Cosgrove. It was sad. I can't imagine she'll be out of the show, but still! I've always felt like she's the most important character. I know that it's been a long time since we've had to learn about this world through her eyes, but she is arguably the most important character you have. She's the anchor. As interesting as Don, Joan, and the others are, who the fuck can identify or relate to them? At this point in the series it feels like things are out of control and maybe removing our safety is just going to add to that feeling. I have no idea.

**Tellahh** · 2012-05-28 15:13

Fucking LOVED this episode, easily my fav in the season now. The ending was spectacular, from Peggy nearly crying when Don kissed her hand good-bye, to her confident smile while the song played getting into the elevator (which I thought was the PERFECT song to play for this). I'm so sad to see her go but it seemed like she'd been growing more and more distant in the office since the Heinz incident, I highly doubt they're going to cut her out completely, but we're going to see less of her, which sucks in itself because I think she was one of my fav characters

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More power to Joan and all but I think this is gonna really come back to bite her on the ass later for her conscience, especially since the vote "wasn't even close", so she didn't even need to whore herself out... will have to see, her having 5% claim in the company was pretty good incentive for her though...

Originally Posted by Trichocyst

Extended thoughts:

Spoiler: show

**Laugana** · 2012-05-28 17:59

Originally Posted by Fiddle Sticks

Was I the only one who thought Peggy was about to step into an empty elevator shaft at the end and fall to her death?

I had the same thought. I was saying in my head, 'Peggy, look before getting on the lift, looooooooook' lol

**Rhyis.** · 2012-05-28 20:24

Wow, shit just got real.

**Rhyis.** · 2012-05-28 20:33

Originally Posted by Trichocyst

Like, this extends the whole idea of Joan as this really strong, independent 60's woman (who's now a partner in the firm!), which is amazing, but... She had to be a fucking prostitute to get it![/spoiler]

Spoiler: show

**aru** · 2012-05-29 08:01

How come Peggy isn't pulling Ken along with her?

**D44kpunk** · 2012-05-29 08:06

didn't really play into rogers character that he didn't try to stop joan aswell, but whatever

**Trichocyst** · 2012-06-03 22:12

Good God, how can the finale follow the bombs dropped in the last two episodes? That was both graphic and depressing. I'm eternally grateful that Sally's master plan was thwarted by mother nature. I miss Peggy. I like that Kenny is the anti Pete Campbell.

Spoiler: show

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2012-06-04 00:36

I'm not sure Sally had a great plan inviting Glen over. This episode was pretty heavy and I agree that the finale is gonna have to go a long way to trump what we've seen recently.

Celeste · 2012-06-04 01:09

Originally Posted by Laugana

I had the same thought. I was saying in my head, 'Peggy, look before getting on the lift, looooooooook' lol

Hahaha, oh no. Peggy, Nuh!

**Rhyis.** · 2012-06-04 03:44

Jesus Christ lol. This episode went from a super sweet mother/daughter moment to a pretty gruesome hanging, all within the blink of an eye.

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