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  1. #41
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    Lets be honest, save for some servers, Beastmen and Sandy are going to be the only nations grabbing Northlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    Lets be honest, save for some servers, Beastmen and Sandy are going to be the only nations grabbing Northlands.
    Sandy is the best, but why? If it's because Orcs are the best mobs to campaign against, that advantage will be gone in the northlands when all 3 nations fight against the same mobs (whatever they may be).

    If it's because Sandy has the best NPCs, I suppose the trend will continue indefinitely.

    If it's because Sandy is on a winning streak which causes more and more people to defect to Sandy so they can do Splitting Heirs, the problem gets worse and worse until SE steps in and fixes things.

    Edit: And option D, all of the above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumy
    The word "Potential" is what worries me.

    ...are they going to release these areas without campaign?
    My interpretation of "potential":
    A) It's like any other zone, campaign battles can occur here.
    OR
    B) Campaign battles can occur in these areas when certain conditions are met.

    I'm leaning towards A, as focusing into every word of a teaser usually backfires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gergall View Post
    Sandy is the best, but why? If it's because Orcs are the best mobs to campaign against, that advantage will be gone in the northlands when all 3 nations fight against the same mobs (whatever they may be).

    If it's because Sandy has the best NPCs, I suppose the trend will continue indefinitely.

    If it's because Sandy is on a winning streak which causes more and more people to defect to Sandy so they can do Splitting Heirs, the problem gets worse and worse until SE steps in and fixes things.

    Edit: And option D, all of the above.
    Quadavs are the best mobs to Campaign against. Nearly all their TP moves don't do damage or don't have completely obnoxious effects (Orcish Counterstance).

    On Hades this week all the nations have 4 areas the BSTs have 9. It was similarly pathetic last week.

    The Fortifications nerf was really well thought through. I wonder how long we'll have to wait until SE admits that was retarded and rolls it back?

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    Only reason so many picked Sandy was because there were gobbie bag items in the initial starting quests.

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    Maybe new SCNM type stuff in Xarc[s] or caslte zvahl[s]? So far the scnms arent really that rewarding and i hope they add onto this or add something new in that is actually worth doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul View Post
    Quadavs are the best mobs to Campaign against. Nearly all their TP moves don't do damage or don't have completely obnoxious effects (Orcish Counterstance).
    Headbutt?
    Ore Toss?

    Am I reading this wrong?

    Edit: People forget that Iron Ram gear is worth campaigning for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Headbutt?
    Ore Toss?

    Am I reading this wrong?

    Edit: People forget that Iron Ram gear is worth campaigning for.
    Read it a bit wrong, He said Most of them.

    Orc Counter sucks hard core

    and the yagudo Makeyounakid TP move Sucks more than Diamond Shell

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    You mean you don't have a macro that requips all of your equipment? Or your ws/spell macros don't just requip all your slots...?

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    The main reason I fight Quadav: standard mobs don't have AOE WSs. I can handle head but and Ore Toss just fine, it's the constant spamming of AOEs taking out my wyvern or stunning me or what have you that drive me nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Read it a bit wrong, He said Most of them.

    Orc Counter sucks hard core

    and the yagudo Makeyounakid TP move Sucks more than Diamond Shell
    Howl and Shell are the only moves I see them use aside from those two (Well at least from what I can remember). No matter anyways.

    I agree with Qeomash about the AoE part greatly. I never noticed it before, but that's probably why it's so easy for my DRG to rack up 5k XP @ CN without much hassle (Fuck Battle Dance).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qeomash View Post
    Only reason so many picked Sandy was because there were gobbie bag items in the initial starting quests.
    The reason why Sandoria [S] has double the people of other [S] nations:

    -Sandoria already had most people in conquest
    -Iron Ram gear
    -Splitting Heirs (when that was released even more people switched to Sandoria and haven't moved back)
    -Gobbiebag items

    Especially regarding Splitting Heirs and Iron ram gear there is an imbalance in attractiveness amongst the 3 [S] nations that draws many people to Sandoria.

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    put ridill in Castle Oz op and D Ring in Beadaux op to rebalance that shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    put ridill in Castle Oz op and D Ring in Beadaux op to rebalance that shit!
    be happy people only give a shit about 1, if people were trying for all 3 no servers would be getting any of it at all

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    When I said Orcs are the easiest mobs to campaign against, I wasn't really focusing on the regular mobs. Regardless of TP moves, regular mobs are generally soloable by any melee/dnc.

    The reason Orcs are the easiest to beat in campaign is because their NMs seem to be the weakest. Whenever I go off and do a Bastok or Windurst battle, there is always a huge amount of trouble dealing with the NM at the end. Massive deaths = lose the battle = lose the area.

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    lol you guys do realize you can get those gobbie bag items without switching nations right? You don't even need to do your own nation's quests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    lol you guys do realize you can get those gobbie bag items without switching nations right? You don't even need to do your own nation's quests.
    Most people only care about their own nations story, since they are still cought in the rank missions mindset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    lol you guys do realize you can get those gobbie bag items without switching nations right? You don't even need to do your own nation's quests.
    Even though we are completely aware of this fact, it doesn't stop other people from erroneously joining Sandy for that reason.

    I don't believe it's a significant factor in campaign tallies though.

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    Enjoy non broken game today, before the servers gets shut, because after maint, we get lots of broken shit and 300 maintenances to fix it on ALL events times for every Linkshells and especially EU prime times woooooozaaaaaaa

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    Hope it doesn't break SpellCast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalil View Post
    Hope it doesn't break SpellCast.
    ^ this. No spellcast, no blm.
    Whm I can do without if need be.

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